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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 7/7] writeback: balance_dirty_pages() shall write more than dirtied pages
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:56:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1252594564.7205.36.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090910132154.GA6446@localhost>

On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 21:21 +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 08:57:42PM +0800, Chris Mason wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:42:01AM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 11:44:13PM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > > On Wed 09-09-09 22:51:48, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > > > Some filesystem may choose to write much more than ratelimit_pages
> > > > > before calling balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited_nr(). So it is safer to
> > > > > determine number to write based on real number of dirtied pages.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The increased write_chunk may make the dirtier more bumpy.  This is
> > > > > filesystem writers' duty not to dirty too much at a time without
> > > > > checking the ratelimit.
> > > >   I don't get this. balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited_nr() is called when we
> > > > dirty the page, not when we write it out. So a problem would only happen if
> > > > filesystem dirties pages by set_page_dirty() and won't call
> > > > balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited_nr(). But e.g. generic_perform_write()
> > > > and do_wp_page() takes care of that. So where's the problem?
> > > 
> > > It seems that btrfs_file_write() is writing in chunks of up to 1024-pages
> > > (1024 is the computed nrptrs value in a 32bit kernel). And it calls
> > > balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited_nr() each time it dirtied such a chunk.
> > 
> > I can easily change this to call more often, but we do always call
> > balance_dirty_pages to reflect how much ram we've really sent down.
> 
> Btrfs is doing OK. 2MB/4MB looks like reasonable chunk sizes. The
> need-change part is balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited_nr(), hence this
> patch :)

I'm not getting it, it calls set_page_dirty() for each page, right? and
then it calls into balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited_nr(), that sounds
right. What is the problem with that?


  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-10 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-09 14:51 [RFC][PATCH 0/7] some random writeback fixes Wu Fengguang
2009-09-09 14:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/7] writeback: cleanup writeback_single_inode() Wu Fengguang
2009-09-09 15:45   ` Jan Kara
2009-09-09 14:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/7] writeback: fix queue_io() ordering Wu Fengguang
2009-09-09 15:53   ` Jan Kara
2009-09-10  1:26     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-10 14:14       ` Jan Kara
2009-09-10 14:17         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-09 14:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/7] writeback: merge for_kupdate and !for_kupdate requeue io logics Wu Fengguang
2009-09-09 14:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/7] writeback: ensure large files are written in MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES chunks Wu Fengguang
2009-09-09 14:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/7] writeback: use 64MB MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES Wu Fengguang
2009-09-09 23:29   ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-10  0:13     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-10  0:13       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-10  4:53     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-10  7:35       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-09 14:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/7] writeback: dont abort inode on congestion Wu Fengguang
2009-09-09 14:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/7] writeback: balance_dirty_pages() shall write more than dirtied pages Wu Fengguang
2009-09-09 15:44   ` Jan Kara
2009-09-10  1:42     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-10 12:57       ` Chris Mason
2009-09-10 13:21         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-10 13:21           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-10 14:56           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-09-10 15:14             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-10 15:31               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-10 15:41                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-10 15:54                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-10 16:08                     ` Wu Fengguang

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