From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: arun@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [v8 PATCH 2/8]: cpuidle: implement a list based approach to register a set of idle routines.
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:50:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1254999033.26976.272.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091008104249.GJ20595@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 16:12 +0530, Arun R Bharadwaj wrote:
>
> > So cpuidle didn't already have a list of idle functions it takes an
> > appropriate one from?
> >
>
> No.. As of now, cpuidle supported only one _set_ of idle states that
> can be registered. So in this one set, it would choose the appropriate
> idle state. But this list mechanism(actually a stack) allows for
> multiple sets.
>
> This is needed because we have a hierarchy of idle states discovery
> in x86. First, select_idle_routine() would select poll/mwait/default/c1e.
> It doesn't know of existance of ACPI. Later when ACPI comes up,
> it registers a set of routines on top of the earlier set.
>
> > Then what does this governor do?
> >
>
> The governor would only select the best idle state available from the
> set of states which is at the top of the stack. (In the above case, it
> would only consider the states registered by ACPI).
>
> If the top-of-the-stack set of idle states is unregistered, the next
> set of states on the stack are considered.
>
> > Also, does this imply the governor doesn't consider these idle routines?
> >
>
> As i said above, governor would only consider the idle routines which
> are at the top of the stack.
>
> Hope this gave a better idea..
So does it make sense to have a set of sets?
Why not integrate them all into one set to be ruled by this governor
thing?
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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: arun@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [v8 PATCH 2/8]: cpuidle: implement a list based approach to register a set of idle routines.
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:50:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1254999033.26976.272.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091008104249.GJ20595@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 16:12 +0530, Arun R Bharadwaj wrote:
>
> > So cpuidle didn't already have a list of idle functions it takes an
> > appropriate one from?
> >
>
> No.. As of now, cpuidle supported only one _set_ of idle states that
> can be registered. So in this one set, it would choose the appropriate
> idle state. But this list mechanism(actually a stack) allows for
> multiple sets.
>
> This is needed because we have a hierarchy of idle states discovery
> in x86. First, select_idle_routine() would select poll/mwait/default/c1e.
> It doesn't know of existance of ACPI. Later when ACPI comes up,
> it registers a set of routines on top of the earlier set.
>
> > Then what does this governor do?
> >
>
> The governor would only select the best idle state available from the
> set of states which is at the top of the stack. (In the above case, it
> would only consider the states registered by ACPI).
>
> If the top-of-the-stack set of idle states is unregistered, the next
> set of states on the stack are considered.
>
> > Also, does this imply the governor doesn't consider these idle routines?
> >
>
> As i said above, governor would only consider the idle routines which
> are at the top of the stack.
>
> Hope this gave a better idea..
So does it make sense to have a set of sets?
Why not integrate them all into one set to be ruled by this governor
thing?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-08 10:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-08 9:48 [v8 PATCH 0/8]: cpuidle: Cleanup cpuidle/ Introduce cpuidle to POWER Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:48 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:48 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:49 ` [v8 PATCH 1/8]: cpuidle: cleanup drivers/cpuidle/cpuidle.c Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:49 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:49 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-12 11:36 ` Balbir Singh
2009-10-12 11:36 ` Balbir Singh
2009-10-14 6:24 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-14 6:24 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:50 ` [v8 PATCH 2/8]: cpuidle: implement a list based approach to register a set of idle routines Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:50 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:50 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-08 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-08 10:42 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 10:42 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 10:50 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-10-08 10:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-08 11:01 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 11:01 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 11:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-08 11:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-08 12:01 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 12:01 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 12:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-08 12:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-08 13:10 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-10-08 13:10 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-10-09 9:39 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-09 9:39 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-12 18:00 ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-12 18:00 ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-14 6:17 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-14 6:17 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-14 7:18 ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-14 7:18 ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-15 6:06 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-15 6:06 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:51 ` [v8 PATCH 3/8]: x86: refactor x86 idle power management code and remove all instances of pm_idle Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:51 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:51 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:52 ` [v8 PATCH 4/8]: POWER: enable cpuidle for POWER Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:52 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:52 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:53 ` [v8 PATCH 5/8]: pSeries/cpuidle: remove dedicate/shared idle loops, which will be moved to arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/processor_idle.c Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:53 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:53 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:53 ` [v8 PATCH 6/8]: POWER: add a default_idle idle loop for POWER Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:53 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:53 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:54 ` [v8 PATCH 7/8]: pSeries: implement pSeries processor idle module Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:54 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:54 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:56 ` [v8 PATCH 8/8]: POWER: Enable default_idle when power_save=off Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:56 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-08 9:56 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2009-10-12 10:01 ` [v8 PATCH 0/8]: cpuidle: Cleanup cpuidle/ Introduce cpuidle to POWER Balbir Singh
2009-10-12 10:01 ` Balbir Singh
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