From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
brueckner@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hvc_console: returning 0 from put_chars is not an error
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:03:24 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1255716204.19032.27.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091016153330.GB11838@loki.buserror.net>
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 10:33 -0500, Scott Wood wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 03:46:45PM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 13:57 -0500, Scott Wood wrote:
> > > I'd say the dropping approach is quite undesirable (significant
> > > potential for output loss unless the buffer is huge), unless there's
> > > simply no way to safely spin. Hopefully there are no such backends, but
> > > if there are perhaps we can have them return some special code to
> > > indicate that.
> >
> > Should never spin.
>
> Why is a hypervisor console different than a serial port in this regard?
Ah sorry, yeah, struct console can I suppose, it's the tty that
shouldn't.
> > Best is to keep a copy in the upper layer of the pending data and throttle
> > (not accept further data from tty layer) until we have managed to flush
> > out that "pending" buffer.
>
> The data isn't coming from the tty layer -- we're talking about printk. How
> do you throttle that without spinning?
>
> I agree that it shouldn't spin when handling tty I/O.
Ben.
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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
Cc: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, brueckner@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hvc_console: returning 0 from put_chars is not an error
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:03:24 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1255716204.19032.27.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091016153330.GB11838@loki.buserror.net>
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 10:33 -0500, Scott Wood wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 03:46:45PM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 13:57 -0500, Scott Wood wrote:
> > > I'd say the dropping approach is quite undesirable (significant
> > > potential for output loss unless the buffer is huge), unless there's
> > > simply no way to safely spin. Hopefully there are no such backends, but
> > > if there are perhaps we can have them return some special code to
> > > indicate that.
> >
> > Should never spin.
>
> Why is a hypervisor console different than a serial port in this regard?
Ah sorry, yeah, struct console can I suppose, it's the tty that
shouldn't.
> > Best is to keep a copy in the upper layer of the pending data and throttle
> > (not accept further data from tty layer) until we have managed to flush
> > out that "pending" buffer.
>
> The data isn't coming from the tty layer -- we're talking about printk. How
> do you throttle that without spinning?
>
> I agree that it shouldn't spin when handling tty I/O.
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-16 18:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-14 21:53 [PATCH] hvc_console: returning 0 from put_chars is not an error Timur Tabi
2009-10-15 11:05 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-10-15 11:05 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-10-15 16:09 ` Scott Wood
2009-10-15 16:09 ` Scott Wood
2009-10-15 18:41 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-10-15 18:41 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-10-15 18:55 ` Timur Tabi
2009-10-15 18:55 ` Timur Tabi
2009-10-15 18:57 ` Scott Wood
2009-10-15 18:57 ` Scott Wood
2009-10-15 19:26 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-10-15 19:26 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-10-15 19:32 ` Scott Wood
2009-10-16 8:49 ` Hendrik Brueckner
2009-10-16 8:49 ` Hendrik Brueckner
2009-10-17 23:17 ` Timur Tabi
2009-10-16 4:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-16 4:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-16 15:33 ` Scott Wood
2009-10-16 15:33 ` Scott Wood
2009-10-16 18:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2009-10-16 18:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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