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From: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: bpm@sgi.com, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/4] If 'wsync' pass datasync=1 to vfs_fsync().
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:38:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1265308680.3317.19.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100204183037.GA9329@infradead.org>

On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 13:30 -0500, Christoph Hellwig wrote: 
> On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 11:20:16AM -0600, bpm@sgi.com wrote:
> > > I think this is incorrect.  datasync = 1 means to only write out
> > > metadata that is required to access the file data.
> > 
> > My thinking there was that the XFS wsync mount option would have ensured
> > that the metadata that changed is already in the log.  I wonder if when
> > using the wsync xfs mount option, could one drop the vfs_fsync
> > altogether?  Looks to me like O_SYNC would also have taken care of any
> > metadata that is required to access the file data.
> 
> Indeed, both write_inode_now and vfs_fsync will also cause data to
> be written.  But my understanding of nfsd is that we manage the data
> writeout separately anyway and we care about the metadata here, which
> the placement of these calls would suggest:
> 
> 	- nfsd_setattr for attribute updates
> 	- nfsd_create for creating a new file (of any type)
> 	- nfsd_link for adding a new link

Yes. Most operations in NFS are required to be synchronous (the only
exception being "unstable" write requests), and so those
fsync/write_inode_now calls are there in order to ensure that the
metadata and/or directory contents that were changed hits the disk
before the RPC call completes.

Cheers
  Trond

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-04 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-03 23:44 [RFC PATCH 0/4] wsync export option Ben Myers
2010-02-03 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] Add 'wsync' " Ben Myers
2010-02-03 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] Add datasync argument to nfsd_sync_dir() Ben Myers
2010-02-03 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] If 'wsync' call vfs_fsync() instead of write_inode_now() Ben Myers
2010-02-03 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] If 'wsync' pass datasync=1 to vfs_fsync() Ben Myers
2010-02-04 15:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-04 17:20     ` bpm
2010-02-04 18:30       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-04 18:38         ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2010-02-04 18:40           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-04 18:52             ` Trond Myklebust
2010-02-03 23:47 ` [ RFC PATCH 5/4 ] Add wsync export option to nfs-utils bpm
2010-02-03 23:58 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] wsync export option Trond Myklebust
2010-02-04 15:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-04 15:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-04 15:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-04 18:15   ` bpm
2010-02-04 18:15     ` bpm
2010-02-04 18:39     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-04 18:39       ` Christoph Hellwig

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