From: Stefani Seibold <stefani@seibold.net>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
"Kreuzer, Michael \(NSN - DE/Ulm\)" <michael.kreuzer@nsn.com>,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Patch] fix MTD CFI/LPDDR flash driver huge latency bug
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:00:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1268499644.27883.94.camel@wall-e> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100313062553.2bdec297.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Am Samstag, den 13.03.2010, 06:25 -0500 schrieb Andrew Morton:
> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:31:30 +0100 Stefani Seibold <stefani@seibold.net> wrote:
>
> > Am Freitag, den 12.03.2010, 14:23 -0800 schrieb Andrew Morton:
> > > On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:48:57 +0100
> > > Stefani Seibold <stefani@seibold.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > The patch change all the use of spin_lock operations for xxxx->mutex
> > > > into mutex operations, which is exact what the name says and means.
> > > >
> > > > There is no performance regression since the mutex is normally not
> > > > acquired.
> > >
> > > hm, big scary patch. Are you sure this mutex is never taken from
> > > atomic or irq contexts? Is it ully tested with all relevant debug options
> > > and lockdep enabled?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I have analyzed this drivers and IMHO i don't think there will be used
> > from irq or atomic contexts. There is no request interrupt and there are
> > a lot msleep and add_wait_queues/schedule calls during holding the
> > mutex, which are not very useful in a irq or atomic context. But i don't
> > know the whole mtd stack.
> >
> > I tested the patch with the following kernel debug options:
> >
> > CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL=y
> > CONFIG_DETECT_SOFTLOCKUP=y
> > CONFIG_BOOTPARAM_SOFTLOCKUP_PANIC_VALUE=0
> > CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG=y
> > CONFIG_SCHEDSTATS=y
> > CONFIG_TIMER_STATS=y
> > CONFIG_DEBUG_MUTEXES=y
> > CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK_SLEEP=y
> >
>
> Neato. As was mentioned, one thing to check is the mtdoops path.
> oopses can happen with locks held, from IRQ context, etc.
>
Okay, i didn't checked that case. But the old code has also a dead lock,
if the oops occurred during the spinlock(xxx->mutex) was held. With the
new mutex solution the change is bigger to run into that deadlock due
the possible preemption.
But i did a "grep" at the whole mtd code and there is no panic_write
function assigned to mtd_info struct for the CFI flash chips. So this
problem will currently never occure.
> If we're trying to take that mutex in oops context then I guess that's
> fixable by just not taking it and hoping for the best. Or, better,
> mutex_trylock() and conditional mutex_unlock() to try to be nice to
> possible concurrent activity on other CPUs.
>
Concurrent access are dangerous and in most cases are not possible,
that's why the spinlock(xxxx->mutex) was for.
I also did some concurrency checks like:
cat /dev/zero >/flash/aa & cat /dev/zero >/flash/bb
without and side effects.
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From: Stefani Seibold <stefani@seibold.net>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
"Kreuzer, Michael (NSN - DE/Ulm)" <michael.kreuzer@nsn.com>
Subject: Re: [Patch] fix MTD CFI/LPDDR flash driver huge latency bug
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:00:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1268499644.27883.94.camel@wall-e> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100313062553.2bdec297.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Am Samstag, den 13.03.2010, 06:25 -0500 schrieb Andrew Morton:
> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:31:30 +0100 Stefani Seibold <stefani@seibold.net> wrote:
>
> > Am Freitag, den 12.03.2010, 14:23 -0800 schrieb Andrew Morton:
> > > On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:48:57 +0100
> > > Stefani Seibold <stefani@seibold.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > The patch change all the use of spin_lock operations for xxxx->mutex
> > > > into mutex operations, which is exact what the name says and means.
> > > >
> > > > There is no performance regression since the mutex is normally not
> > > > acquired.
> > >
> > > hm, big scary patch. Are you sure this mutex is never taken from
> > > atomic or irq contexts? Is it ully tested with all relevant debug options
> > > and lockdep enabled?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I have analyzed this drivers and IMHO i don't think there will be used
> > from irq or atomic contexts. There is no request interrupt and there are
> > a lot msleep and add_wait_queues/schedule calls during holding the
> > mutex, which are not very useful in a irq or atomic context. But i don't
> > know the whole mtd stack.
> >
> > I tested the patch with the following kernel debug options:
> >
> > CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL=y
> > CONFIG_DETECT_SOFTLOCKUP=y
> > CONFIG_BOOTPARAM_SOFTLOCKUP_PANIC_VALUE=0
> > CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG=y
> > CONFIG_SCHEDSTATS=y
> > CONFIG_TIMER_STATS=y
> > CONFIG_DEBUG_MUTEXES=y
> > CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK_SLEEP=y
> >
>
> Neato. As was mentioned, one thing to check is the mtdoops path.
> oopses can happen with locks held, from IRQ context, etc.
>
Okay, i didn't checked that case. But the old code has also a dead lock,
if the oops occurred during the spinlock(xxx->mutex) was held. With the
new mutex solution the change is bigger to run into that deadlock due
the possible preemption.
But i did a "grep" at the whole mtd code and there is no panic_write
function assigned to mtd_info struct for the CFI flash chips. So this
problem will currently never occure.
> If we're trying to take that mutex in oops context then I guess that's
> fixable by just not taking it and hoping for the best. Or, better,
> mutex_trylock() and conditional mutex_unlock() to try to be nice to
> possible concurrent activity on other CPUs.
>
Concurrent access are dangerous and in most cases are not possible,
that's why the spinlock(xxxx->mutex) was for.
I also did some concurrency checks like:
cat /dev/zero >/flash/aa & cat /dev/zero >/flash/bb
without and side effects.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-13 17:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-06 16:48 [Patch] fix MTD CFI/LPDDR flash driver huge latency bug Stefani Seibold
2010-03-06 16:48 ` Stefani Seibold
2010-03-12 22:23 ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-12 22:23 ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-12 23:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-12 23:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-13 12:35 ` Stefani Seibold
2010-03-13 12:35 ` Stefani Seibold
2010-03-15 3:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-15 3:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-15 6:15 ` Stefani Seibold
2010-03-15 6:15 ` Stefani Seibold
2010-03-15 14:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-15 14:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-19 8:29 ` David Woodhouse
2010-03-19 8:29 ` David Woodhouse
2010-03-19 8:40 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-19 8:40 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-13 12:31 ` Stefani Seibold
2010-03-13 12:31 ` Stefani Seibold
2010-03-13 11:25 ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-13 11:25 ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-13 17:00 ` Stefani Seibold [this message]
2010-03-13 17:00 ` Stefani Seibold
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2010-02-28 17:00 Stefani Seibold
2010-02-28 17:00 ` Stefani Seibold
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