From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, kumar.gala@freescale.com,
Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>,
Liam Girdwood <lrg@slimlogic.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] powerpc: add platform registration for ALSA SoC drivers
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:36:51 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1272501411.24542.125.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100428120719.GE31400@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 13:07 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> > The device-tree helps keep the platform .c file simple and devoid of too
> > horrible hacks, it allows to easily pass various configuration data to
> > leaf drivers such as i2c thingies, PHY devices etc... without gross
> > hooks between these and the platform, but the platform code still has
> > the upper hand for doing ad-hoc bits and pieces (or overwriting the
> > device-tree based behaviour) if necessary.
>
> Once again, if you can get the device tree guys to buy into this and
> stick with it that sounds good but my experience has been that this
> isn't where any of these discussions end up.
Well, as the person who came up with the flattened device-tree format in
the first place I suppose I qualify as a "device-tree" guy here :-)
At the moment, I'd say Grant (and to some extent Jeremy Kerr) are the
guys in charge though, but yes, I agree with you, there's a tendency to
be too over-exited and to want to do "too much" with the DT and that is
counter productive. It's a good tool but it's not going to solve world
hunger and in some places an ad-hoc bit of C code is a better option :)
Now, I don't think Grant is totally off the tracks here but I must admit
I haven't taken the time to ensure I understand perfectly everybody's
position in that debate. At least I made mine clear, hope this helps :-)
Cheers,
Ben.
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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, kumar.gala@freescale.com,
linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>,
Liam Girdwood <lrg@slimlogic.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH 1/2] powerpc: add platform registration for ALSA SoC drivers
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:36:51 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1272501411.24542.125.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100428120719.GE31400@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 13:07 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> > The device-tree helps keep the platform .c file simple and devoid of too
> > horrible hacks, it allows to easily pass various configuration data to
> > leaf drivers such as i2c thingies, PHY devices etc... without gross
> > hooks between these and the platform, but the platform code still has
> > the upper hand for doing ad-hoc bits and pieces (or overwriting the
> > device-tree based behaviour) if necessary.
>
> Once again, if you can get the device tree guys to buy into this and
> stick with it that sounds good but my experience has been that this
> isn't where any of these discussions end up.
Well, as the person who came up with the flattened device-tree format in
the first place I suppose I qualify as a "device-tree" guy here :-)
At the moment, I'd say Grant (and to some extent Jeremy Kerr) are the
guys in charge though, but yes, I agree with you, there's a tendency to
be too over-exited and to want to do "too much" with the DT and that is
counter productive. It's a good tool but it's not going to solve world
hunger and in some places an ad-hoc bit of C code is a better option :)
Now, I don't think Grant is totally off the tracks here but I must admit
I haven't taken the time to ensure I understand perfectly everybody's
position in that debate. At least I made mine clear, hope this helps :-)
Cheers,
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-29 0:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-26 20:49 [PATCH 1/2] powerpc: add platform registration for ALSA SoC drivers Timur Tabi
2010-04-27 6:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-27 6:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-27 8:07 ` Liam Girdwood
2010-04-27 8:07 ` [alsa-devel] " Liam Girdwood
2010-04-27 14:52 ` Timur Tabi
2010-04-27 14:52 ` [alsa-devel] " Timur Tabi
2010-04-27 15:20 ` Liam Girdwood
2010-04-27 15:20 ` [alsa-devel] " Liam Girdwood
2010-04-27 15:28 ` Timur Tabi
2010-04-27 15:28 ` [alsa-devel] " Timur Tabi
2010-04-27 15:56 ` Timur Tabi
2010-04-27 15:56 ` [alsa-devel] " Timur Tabi
2010-04-27 16:41 ` Liam Girdwood
2010-04-27 16:41 ` [alsa-devel] " Liam Girdwood
2010-04-27 18:32 ` Timur Tabi
2010-04-27 18:32 ` [alsa-devel] " Timur Tabi
2010-04-27 19:15 ` Grant Likely
2010-04-27 19:15 ` [alsa-devel] " Grant Likely
2010-04-27 20:04 ` Timur Tabi
2010-04-27 20:04 ` [alsa-devel] " Timur Tabi
2010-04-27 20:38 ` Mark Brown
2010-04-27 20:38 ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2010-04-28 4:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-28 4:19 ` [alsa-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-28 4:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-28 4:18 ` [alsa-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-30 21:46 ` Timur Tabi
2010-04-30 21:46 ` [alsa-devel] " Timur Tabi
2010-04-30 22:04 ` Timur Tabi
2010-04-30 22:04 ` [alsa-devel] " Timur Tabi
2010-04-27 20:24 ` Grant Likely
2010-04-27 20:24 ` [alsa-devel] " Grant Likely
2010-04-27 20:46 ` Timur Tabi
2010-04-27 20:46 ` [alsa-devel] " Timur Tabi
2010-04-27 20:59 ` Mark Brown
2010-04-27 20:59 ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2010-04-27 21:03 ` Timur Tabi
2010-04-27 21:03 ` [alsa-devel] " Timur Tabi
2010-04-27 21:11 ` Mark Brown
2010-04-27 21:11 ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2010-04-28 4:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-28 4:25 ` [alsa-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-28 13:00 ` Mark Brown
2010-04-28 13:00 ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2010-04-29 0:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-29 0:42 ` [alsa-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-28 5:37 ` Grant Likely
2010-04-28 5:37 ` [alsa-devel] " Grant Likely
2010-04-28 13:35 ` Timur Tabi
2010-04-28 13:35 ` [alsa-devel] " Timur Tabi
2010-04-28 13:57 ` Grant Likely
2010-04-28 13:57 ` [alsa-devel] " Grant Likely
2010-04-28 16:20 ` Timur Tabi
2010-04-28 16:20 ` [alsa-devel] " Timur Tabi
2010-04-28 16:47 ` Grant Likely
2010-04-28 16:47 ` [alsa-devel] " Grant Likely
2010-04-28 17:27 ` Timur Tabi
2010-04-28 17:27 ` [alsa-devel] " Timur Tabi
2010-04-27 22:29 ` Mark Brown
2010-04-27 22:29 ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2010-04-28 2:31 ` Grant Likely
2010-04-28 2:31 ` [alsa-devel] " Grant Likely
2010-04-28 9:16 ` Mark Brown
2010-04-28 9:16 ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2010-04-28 4:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-28 4:10 ` [alsa-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-28 12:07 ` Mark Brown
2010-04-28 12:07 ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2010-04-29 0:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2010-04-29 0:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-29 3:43 ` Grant Likely
2010-04-29 3:43 ` [alsa-devel] " Grant Likely
2010-04-28 13:19 ` Timur Tabi
2010-04-28 13:19 ` [alsa-devel] " Timur Tabi
2010-04-28 13:39 ` Mark Brown
2010-04-28 13:39 ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2010-04-27 9:54 ` Mark Brown
2010-04-27 9:54 ` Mark Brown
2010-04-27 10:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-27 10:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-27 10:41 ` Mark Brown
2010-04-27 10:41 ` Mark Brown
2010-04-27 20:27 ` Grant Likely
2010-04-27 20:27 ` Grant Likely
2010-04-27 20:50 ` Mark Brown
2010-04-27 20:50 ` Mark Brown
2010-04-27 20:53 ` Timur Tabi
2010-04-27 20:53 ` Timur Tabi
2010-04-28 12:49 ` Liam Girdwood
2010-04-28 12:49 ` [alsa-devel] " Liam Girdwood
2010-04-28 20:35 ` Timur Tabi
2010-04-28 20:35 ` [alsa-devel] " Timur Tabi
2010-04-28 21:58 ` Grant Likely
2010-04-28 21:58 ` [alsa-devel] " Grant Likely
2010-04-28 22:13 ` Timur Tabi
2010-04-28 22:13 ` [alsa-devel] " Timur Tabi
[not found] ` <r2oed82fe3e1004281513k23b54b56v7904a4a34750c90b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-28 22:23 ` Grant Likely
2010-04-28 22:23 ` Grant Likely
2010-04-29 0:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-29 0:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-29 3:44 ` Grant Likely
2010-04-29 3:44 ` [alsa-devel] " Grant Likely
2010-04-29 0:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-29 0:50 ` [alsa-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-27 19:21 ` Grant Likely
2010-04-27 19:21 ` Grant Likely
2010-04-27 20:05 ` Timur Tabi
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