From: john stultz <johnstul-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Richard Cochran <richardcochran-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
linuxppc-dev-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl-vYTEC60ixJUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
David Miller <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>,
Krzysztof Halasa <khc-9GfyWEdoJtJmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
Rodolfo Giometti <giometti-k2GhghHVRtY@public.gmane.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] posix clocks: introduce a syscall for clock tuning.
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:55:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1285350914.3514.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100924072946.GA5043-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 09:29 +0200, Richard Cochran wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:48:51PM -0700, john stultz wrote:
> > So I'd still split this patch up a little bit more.
> >
> > 1) Patch that implements the ADJ_SETOFFSET (*and its implementation*)
> > in do_adjtimex.
> >
> > 2) Patch that adds the new syscall and clock_id multiplexing.
> >
> > 3) Patches that wire it up to the rest of the architectures (there's
> > still a bunch missing here).
>
> I was not sure what the policy is about adding syscalls. Is it the
> syscall author's responsibility to add it into every arch?
>
> The last time (see a2e2725541fad7) the commit only added half of some
> archs, and ignored others. In my patch, the syscall *really* works on
> the archs that are present in the patch.
>
> (Actually, I did not test blackfin, since I don't have one, but I
> included it since I know they have a PTP hardware clock.)
I'm not sure about policy, but I think for completeness sake you should
make sure every arch supports a new syscall. You're not expected to be
able to test every one, but getting the basic support patch sent to
maintainers should be done.
> > > +static inline int common_clock_adj(const clockid_t which_clock, struct timex *t)
> > > +{
> > > + if (CLOCK_REALTIME == which_clock)
> > > + return do_adjtimex(t);
> > > + else
> > > + return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> > > +}
> >
> >
> > Would it make sense to point to the do_adjtimex() in the k_clock
> > definition for CLOCK_REALTIME rather then conditionalizing it here?
>
> But what about CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW, for example?
-EOPNOTSUPP
> Does it make sense to allow it to be adjusted?
No. I think only CLOCK_REALTIME would make sense of the existing clocks.
I'm just suggesting you conditionalize it from the function pointer,
rather then in the common function.
thanks
-john
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From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
Cc: Rodolfo Giometti <giometti@linux.it>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] posix clocks: introduce a syscall for clock tuning.
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:55:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1285350914.3514.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100924072946.GA5043@riccoc20.at.omicron.at>
On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 09:29 +0200, Richard Cochran wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:48:51PM -0700, john stultz wrote:
> > So I'd still split this patch up a little bit more.
> >
> > 1) Patch that implements the ADJ_SETOFFSET (*and its implementation*)
> > in do_adjtimex.
> >
> > 2) Patch that adds the new syscall and clock_id multiplexing.
> >
> > 3) Patches that wire it up to the rest of the architectures (there's
> > still a bunch missing here).
>
> I was not sure what the policy is about adding syscalls. Is it the
> syscall author's responsibility to add it into every arch?
>
> The last time (see a2e2725541fad7) the commit only added half of some
> archs, and ignored others. In my patch, the syscall *really* works on
> the archs that are present in the patch.
>
> (Actually, I did not test blackfin, since I don't have one, but I
> included it since I know they have a PTP hardware clock.)
I'm not sure about policy, but I think for completeness sake you should
make sure every arch supports a new syscall. You're not expected to be
able to test every one, but getting the basic support patch sent to
maintainers should be done.
> > > +static inline int common_clock_adj(const clockid_t which_clock, struct timex *t)
> > > +{
> > > + if (CLOCK_REALTIME == which_clock)
> > > + return do_adjtimex(t);
> > > + else
> > > + return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> > > +}
> >
> >
> > Would it make sense to point to the do_adjtimex() in the k_clock
> > definition for CLOCK_REALTIME rather then conditionalizing it here?
>
> But what about CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW, for example?
-EOPNOTSUPP
> Does it make sense to allow it to be adjusted?
No. I think only CLOCK_REALTIME would make sense of the existing clocks.
I'm just suggesting you conditionalize it from the function pointer,
rather then in the common function.
thanks
-john
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: johnstul@us.ibm.com (john stultz)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 1/8] posix clocks: introduce a syscall for clock tuning.
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:55:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1285350914.3514.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100924072946.GA5043@riccoc20.at.omicron.at>
On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 09:29 +0200, Richard Cochran wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:48:51PM -0700, john stultz wrote:
> > So I'd still split this patch up a little bit more.
> >
> > 1) Patch that implements the ADJ_SETOFFSET (*and its implementation*)
> > in do_adjtimex.
> >
> > 2) Patch that adds the new syscall and clock_id multiplexing.
> >
> > 3) Patches that wire it up to the rest of the architectures (there's
> > still a bunch missing here).
>
> I was not sure what the policy is about adding syscalls. Is it the
> syscall author's responsibility to add it into every arch?
>
> The last time (see a2e2725541fad7) the commit only added half of some
> archs, and ignored others. In my patch, the syscall *really* works on
> the archs that are present in the patch.
>
> (Actually, I did not test blackfin, since I don't have one, but I
> included it since I know they have a PTP hardware clock.)
I'm not sure about policy, but I think for completeness sake you should
make sure every arch supports a new syscall. You're not expected to be
able to test every one, but getting the basic support patch sent to
maintainers should be done.
> > > +static inline int common_clock_adj(const clockid_t which_clock, struct timex *t)
> > > +{
> > > + if (CLOCK_REALTIME == which_clock)
> > > + return do_adjtimex(t);
> > > + else
> > > + return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> > > +}
> >
> >
> > Would it make sense to point to the do_adjtimex() in the k_clock
> > definition for CLOCK_REALTIME rather then conditionalizing it here?
>
> But what about CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW, for example?
-EOPNOTSUPP
> Does it make sense to allow it to be adjusted?
No. I think only CLOCK_REALTIME would make sense of the existing clocks.
I'm just suggesting you conditionalize it from the function pointer,
rather then in the common function.
thanks
-john
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Rodolfo Giometti <giometti@linux.it>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] posix clocks: introduce a syscall for clock tuning.
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:55:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1285350914.3514.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100924072946.GA5043@riccoc20.at.omicron.at>
On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 09:29 +0200, Richard Cochran wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:48:51PM -0700, john stultz wrote:
> > So I'd still split this patch up a little bit more.
> >
> > 1) Patch that implements the ADJ_SETOFFSET (*and its implementation*)
> > in do_adjtimex.
> >
> > 2) Patch that adds the new syscall and clock_id multiplexing.
> >
> > 3) Patches that wire it up to the rest of the architectures (there's
> > still a bunch missing here).
>
> I was not sure what the policy is about adding syscalls. Is it the
> syscall author's responsibility to add it into every arch?
>
> The last time (see a2e2725541fad7) the commit only added half of some
> archs, and ignored others. In my patch, the syscall *really* works on
> the archs that are present in the patch.
>
> (Actually, I did not test blackfin, since I don't have one, but I
> included it since I know they have a PTP hardware clock.)
I'm not sure about policy, but I think for completeness sake you should
make sure every arch supports a new syscall. You're not expected to be
able to test every one, but getting the basic support patch sent to
maintainers should be done.
> > > +static inline int common_clock_adj(const clockid_t which_clock, struct timex *t)
> > > +{
> > > + if (CLOCK_REALTIME == which_clock)
> > > + return do_adjtimex(t);
> > > + else
> > > + return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> > > +}
> >
> >
> > Would it make sense to point to the do_adjtimex() in the k_clock
> > definition for CLOCK_REALTIME rather then conditionalizing it here?
>
> But what about CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW, for example?
-EOPNOTSUPP
> Does it make sense to allow it to be adjusted?
No. I think only CLOCK_REALTIME would make sense of the existing clocks.
I'm just suggesting you conditionalize it from the function pointer,
rather then in the common function.
thanks
-john
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-24 17:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 185+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-23 17:30 [PATCH v6 0/8] ptp: IEEE 1588 hardware clock support Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:30 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:30 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:31 ` [PATCH 1/8] posix clocks: introduce a syscall for clock tuning Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:31 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:31 ` Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <b94ef1cd9c04ef3ad5964408bd0af7251add78de.1285261534.git.richard.cochran-3mrvs1K0uXizZXS1Dc/lvw@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 19:48 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 19:48 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 19:48 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 19:48 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <1285271331.2587.56.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 7:29 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 7:29 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 7:29 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 7:29 ` Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <20100924072946.GA5043-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 17:55 ` john stultz [this message]
2010-09-24 17:55 ` john stultz
2010-09-24 17:55 ` john stultz
2010-09-24 17:55 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 22:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-23 22:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-23 22:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-23 22:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-23 22:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-09-23 22:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-09-23 22:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-09-23 22:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1009240008390.2416-bi+AKbBUZKagILUCTcTcHdKyNwTtLsGr@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 1:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-24 1:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-24 1:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-24 1:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-24 7:55 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 7:55 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 7:55 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 7:55 ` Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <20100924075534.GB5043-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 22:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-24 22:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-24 22:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-24 22:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-23 17:31 ` [PATCH 2/8] posix clocks: dynamic clock ids Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:31 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:31 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:31 ` [PATCH 3/8] posix clocks: introduce a sysfs presence Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:31 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:31 ` Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <cover.1285261533.git.richard.cochran-3mrvs1K0uXizZXS1Dc/lvw@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 17:32 ` [PATCH 4/8] ptp: Added a brand new class driver for ptp clocks Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:32 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:32 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:32 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:32 ` [PATCH 5/8] ptp: Added a simulated PTP hardware clock Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:32 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:32 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:33 ` [PATCH 6/8] ptp: Added a clock that uses the eTSEC found on the MPC85xx Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:33 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:33 ` Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <57b64051c816dc9cb856bbb9f38fc901c9d3d651.1285261535.git.richard.cochran-3mrvs1K0uXizZXS1Dc/lvw@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 19:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 19:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 19:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 19:17 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1009231348150.2962-sBS69tsa9Uj/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 20:43 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 20:43 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 20:43 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 20:43 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20100923214359.3f287b11-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 20:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 20:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 20:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 20:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 21:26 ` Christian Riesch
2010-09-23 21:26 ` Christian Riesch
2010-09-23 21:26 ` Christian Riesch
2010-09-24 11:52 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-24 11:52 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-24 11:52 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-24 8:49 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 8:49 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 8:49 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 8:49 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:33 ` [PATCH 7/8] ptp: Added a clock driver for the IXP46x Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:33 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:33 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:34 ` [PATCH 8/8] ptp: Added a clock driver for the National Semiconductor PHYTER Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:34 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:34 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:53 ` [PATCH v6 0/8] ptp: IEEE 1588 hardware clock support Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 17:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 17:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 18:21 ` Jacob Keller
2010-09-23 18:21 ` Jacob Keller
2010-09-23 18:21 ` Jacob Keller
2010-09-23 18:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 18:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 18:36 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1009231238170.2962-sBS69tsa9Uj/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 18:59 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 18:59 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 18:59 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 18:59 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <1285268380.2587.11.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 19:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 19:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 19:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 19:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 20:28 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 20:28 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 20:28 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 20:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 20:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 20:49 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1009231533040.7522-sBS69tsa9Uj/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 21:34 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 21:34 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 21:34 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 21:34 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 21:34 ` Christian Riesch
2010-09-23 21:34 ` Christian Riesch
2010-09-23 21:34 ` Christian Riesch
[not found] ` <4C9BC7CE.8020400-U4+xqT1Vg0VeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-27 15:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 15:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 15:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 15:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-30 3:50 ` Christian Riesch
2010-09-30 3:50 ` Christian Riesch
2010-09-30 3:50 ` Christian Riesch
2010-10-02 1:44 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-10-02 1:44 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-10-02 1:44 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-09-23 21:42 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 21:42 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 21:42 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 21:42 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <1285278136.2587.154.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-27 15:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 15:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 15:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 15:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 16:14 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-09-27 16:14 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-09-27 16:14 ` M. Warner Losh
[not found] ` <20100927.101423.702773873740300798.imp-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-28 6:34 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-28 6:34 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-28 6:34 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-28 6:34 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 8:33 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 8:33 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 8:33 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 8:33 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 19:38 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 19:38 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 19:38 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <1285270733.2587.46.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 13:50 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 13:50 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 13:50 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 13:50 ` Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <20100924135001.GB3113-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 14:57 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-24 14:57 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-24 14:57 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-24 14:57 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 20:36 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 20:36 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 20:36 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 20:49 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 20:49 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 20:49 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <1285274952.2587.113.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 21:30 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 21:30 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 21:30 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 21:30 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 22:03 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 22:03 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 22:03 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <20100923213654.0c64b047-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 13:14 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 13:14 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 13:14 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 13:14 ` Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <20100924131407.GA3113-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 14:02 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-24 14:02 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-24 14:02 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-24 14:02 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-24 14:07 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-24 14:07 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-24 14:07 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-27 15:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 15:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 15:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 17:05 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-27 17:05 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-27 17:05 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-28 6:47 ` Richard Cochran
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