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From: peterz@infradead.org (Peter Zijlstra)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [BUG] 2.6.37-rc3 massive interactivity regression on ARM
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:07:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1292011644.13513.61.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1012101344570.13986@router.home>

On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 13:51 -0600, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> > > > gcc wont be able to do this yet (%fs/%gs selectors)
> > >
> > > The kernel can do that using the __percpu annotation.
> >
> > That's not true:
> >
> > # define __percpu
> >
> > Its a complete NOP.
> 
> The annotation serves for sparse checking. .... If you do not care about
> those checks then you can simply pass a percpu pointer in the same form as
> a regular pointer.

Its not about passing per-cpu pointers, its about passing long pointers.

When I write:

void foo(u64 *bla)
{
	*bla++;
}

DEFINE_PER_CPU(u64, plop);

void bar(void)
{
	foo(__this_cpu_ptr(plop));
}

I want gcc to emit the equivalent to:

__this_cpu_inc(plop); /* incq %fs:(%0) */

Now I guess the C type system will get in the way of this ever working,
since a long pointer would have a distinct type from a regular
pointer :/

The idea is to use 'regular' functions with the per-cpu data in a
transparent manner so as not to have to replicate all logic.

> > > > But we can provide this_cpu_write_seqcount_{begin|end}()
> > >
> > > No we cannot do hat. this_cpu ops are for per cpu data and not for locking
> > > values shared between processors. We have a mechanism for passing per cpu
> > > pointers with a corresponding annotation.
> >
> > -enoparse, its not locking anything, is a per-cpu sequence count.
> 
> seqlocks are for synchronization of objects on different processors.
> 
> Seems that you do not have that use case in mind. So a seqlock restricted
> to a single processor? If so then you wont need any of those smp write
> barriers mentioned earlier. A simple compiler barrier() is sufficient.

The seqcount is sometimes read by different CPUs, but I don't see why we
couldn't do what Eric suggested.

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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Venkatesh Pallipadi <venki@google.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@it.uu.se>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [BUG] 2.6.37-rc3 massive interactivity regression on ARM
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:07:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1292011644.13513.61.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1012101344570.13986@router.home>

On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 13:51 -0600, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> > > > gcc wont be able to do this yet (%fs/%gs selectors)
> > >
> > > The kernel can do that using the __percpu annotation.
> >
> > That's not true:
> >
> > # define __percpu
> >
> > Its a complete NOP.
> 
> The annotation serves for sparse checking. .... If you do not care about
> those checks then you can simply pass a percpu pointer in the same form as
> a regular pointer.

Its not about passing per-cpu pointers, its about passing long pointers.

When I write:

void foo(u64 *bla)
{
	*bla++;
}

DEFINE_PER_CPU(u64, plop);

void bar(void)
{
	foo(__this_cpu_ptr(plop));
}

I want gcc to emit the equivalent to:

__this_cpu_inc(plop); /* incq %fs:(%0) */

Now I guess the C type system will get in the way of this ever working,
since a long pointer would have a distinct type from a regular
pointer :/

The idea is to use 'regular' functions with the per-cpu data in a
transparent manner so as not to have to replicate all logic.

> > > > But we can provide this_cpu_write_seqcount_{begin|end}()
> > >
> > > No we cannot do hat. this_cpu ops are for per cpu data and not for locking
> > > values shared between processors. We have a mechanism for passing per cpu
> > > pointers with a corresponding annotation.
> >
> > -enoparse, its not locking anything, is a per-cpu sequence count.
> 
> seqlocks are for synchronization of objects on different processors.
> 
> Seems that you do not have that use case in mind. So a seqlock restricted
> to a single processor? If so then you wont need any of those smp write
> barriers mentioned earlier. A simple compiler barrier() is sufficient.

The seqcount is sometimes read by different CPUs, but I don't see why we
couldn't do what Eric suggested.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-10 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-27 15:16 [BUG] 2.6.37-rc3 massive interactivity regression on ARM Mikael Pettersson
2010-11-27 15:16 ` Mikael Pettersson
2010-12-05 12:32 ` Mikael Pettersson
2010-12-05 12:32   ` Mikael Pettersson
2010-12-05 13:17   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-05 13:17     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-05 14:19     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-05 14:19       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-05 16:07       ` Mikael Pettersson
2010-12-05 16:07         ` Mikael Pettersson
2010-12-05 16:21         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-05 16:21           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-08 12:40           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-08 12:40             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-08 12:55             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-08 12:55               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-08 14:04               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-08 14:04                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-08 14:28                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-08 14:28                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-08 14:44                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-08 14:44                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-08 15:05                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-08 15:05                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-08 15:43                     ` Linus Walleij
2010-12-08 15:43                       ` Linus Walleij
2010-12-08 20:42                     ` john stultz
2010-12-08 20:42                       ` john stultz
2010-12-08 23:31                   ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-12-08 23:31                     ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-12-09 12:52                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-09 12:52                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-09 17:43                       ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-12-09 17:43                         ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-12-09 17:55                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-09 17:55                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-09 18:11                           ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-12-09 18:11                             ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-12-09 18:55                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-09 18:55                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-09 22:21                               ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-12-09 22:21                                 ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-12-09 23:16                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-09 23:16                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-09 23:35                                   ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-12-09 23:35                                     ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-12-10 10:08                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 10:08                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 13:17                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 13:17                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 13:27                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 13:27                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 13:47                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 13:47                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 16:50                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-10 16:50                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-10 16:54                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 16:54                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 17:18                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-10 17:18                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-10 17:49                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 17:49                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 18:14                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-10 18:14                                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-10 18:39                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-12-10 18:39                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-12-10 18:46                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 18:46                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 19:51                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-12-10 19:51                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-12-10 20:07                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-12-10 20:07                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 20:23                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-12-10 20:23                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2010-12-10 20:32                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 20:32                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 20:39                                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-10 20:39                                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-10 20:49                                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-10 20:49                                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-10 21:09                                                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-12-10 21:09                                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-12-10 21:22                                                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-10 21:22                                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-10 21:45                                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-12-10 21:45                                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-12-10 17:56                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-10 17:56                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-10 18:10                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 18:10                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 18:43                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 18:43                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 19:17                                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-10 19:17                                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-10 19:37                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 19:37                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 19:25                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 19:25                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 14:33                             ` Jack Daniel
2010-12-13 14:33                               ` Jack Daniel
2010-12-06 21:29       ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-12-06 21:29         ` Venkatesh Pallipadi

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