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From: Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@petrovitsch.priv.at>
To: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Nicholas A. Bellinger" <nab@linux-iscsi.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] configfs: change depends -> select SYSFS
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:16:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1295263013.24967.6.camel@thorin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110117015220.11b43ae7@stein>

On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 01:52 +0100, Stefan Richter wrote:
[...] 
> We already have different UIs.  But perhaps we have too much UI down in
> the Kconfig files.  I.e., perhaps Kconfig shouldn't know the difference

IOMHO not really.

> between depends-on and select.  Let the different UIs present the

The UI should know the difference as it should guide/force the user -
especially the less experienced ones which aren't expected to know every
bit of hardware and kernel-internal stuff (as in "do I need gzip
compression?").

And there are two (IMHO very) different semantics:
- select: enables/activates/includes necessary other parts (like the
  "gzip compression" example from above and other library-like).
- depends on: to purposely disable knobs because it makes no sense to
  configure e.g. ext-specific stuff if I don't have/want ext or because
  the physical hardware is not present/available (find more and better
  in Al Viros mail of course).

> dependency graph to the operator in different ways, suitable to different
> tasks.

That would be quite cute.

> /handwave off.
AOL.
Bernd
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Bernd Petrovitsch                  Email : bernd@petrovitsch.priv.at
                     LUGA : http://www.luga.at


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-01-17 11:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-15 21:10 [PATCH] configfs: change depends -> select SYSFS Nicholas A. Bellinger
2011-01-16 13:11 ` Stefan Richter
2011-01-16 21:53   ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2011-01-16 23:06     ` Stefan Richter
2011-01-16 23:11       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-16 23:19         ` Al Viro
2011-01-16 23:45           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-17  0:05             ` Al Viro
2011-01-17  7:11               ` Rolf Eike Beer
2011-01-17  0:52             ` Stefan Richter
2011-01-17  1:07               ` Randy Dunlap
2011-01-17 11:16               ` Bernd Petrovitsch [this message]
2011-01-16 23:14       ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2011-01-17  0:22       ` James Bottomley
2011-01-17  6:05         ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2011-01-17 18:24           ` Randy Dunlap
2011-01-17 22:10             ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2011-01-18  0:13               ` Randy Dunlap
2011-01-18  0:46                 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2011-01-17 18:11         ` Randy Dunlap
2011-01-16 17:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-16 21:44   ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-01-10 19:45 Nicholas A. Bellinger
2011-01-10 23:46 ` Joel Becker

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