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Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: provide scheduler_ipi() callback in response to smp_send_reschedule()
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:43:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1295296983.30950.369.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1295296310.2148.29.camel@pasglop>

On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 07:31 +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> 
> Beware of false positive, I've used "fake" reschedule IPIs in the past
> for other things (like kicking a CPU out of sleep state for unrelated
> reasons). Nothing that I know that is upstream today but some of that
> might come back. I'd like to avoid having to add an atomic to know if
> it's a real reschedule, will the scheduler be smart enough to not bother
> with false positives ? 

Yes it can deal with that, some will be for reschedules, some will be
for ttwu tail ends and x86 too uses this ipi for a few random other
things like kicking kvm out of guest context..

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>,
	Matt Turner <mattst88@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>,
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	Hirokazu Takata <takata@linux-m32r.org>,
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	Koichi Yasutake <yasutake.koichi@jp.panasonic.com>,
	Kyle McMartin <kyle@mcmartin.ca>, Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@parisc-linux.org>,
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	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: provide scheduler_ipi() callback in response to smp_send_reschedule()
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:43:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1295296983.30950.369.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1295296310.2148.29.camel@pasglop>

On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 07:31 +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> 
> Beware of false positive, I've used "fake" reschedule IPIs in the past
> for other things (like kicking a CPU out of sleep state for unrelated
> reasons). Nothing that I know that is upstream today but some of that
> might come back. I'd like to avoid having to add an atomic to know if
> it's a real reschedule, will the scheduler be smart enough to not bother
> with false positives ? 

Yes it can deal with that, some will be for reschedules, some will be
for ttwu tail ends and x86 too uses this ipi for a few random other
things like kicking kvm out of guest context..

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: linux-m32r-ja@ml.linux-m32r.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>, Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux-Arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	Jesper Nilsson <jesper.nilsson@axis.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Hirokazu Takata <takata@linux-m32r.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, "James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@parisc-linux.org>,
	virtualization@lists.osdl.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Matt Turner <mattst88@gmail.com>,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>,
	user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Mikael Starvik <starvik@axis.com>,
	linux-m32r@ml.linux-m32r.org,
	Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>,
	user-mode-linux-user@lists.sourceforge.net,
	uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, linux-cris-kernel@axis.com,
	linux-am33-list@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	Kyle McMartin <kyle@mcmartin.ca>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
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	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
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	Koichi Yasutake <yasutake.koichi@jp.panasonic.com>,
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	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: provide scheduler_ipi() callback in response to smp_send_reschedule()
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:43:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1295296983.30950.369.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1295296310.2148.29.camel@pasglop>

On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 07:31 +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
>=20
> Beware of false positive, I've used "fake" reschedule IPIs in the past
> for other things (like kicking a CPU out of sleep state for unrelated
> reasons). Nothing that I know that is upstream today but some of that
> might come back. I'd like to avoid having to add an atomic to know if
> it's a real reschedule, will the scheduler be smart enough to not bother
> with false positives ?=20

Yes it can deal with that, some will be for reschedules, some will be
for ttwu tail ends and x86 too uses this ipi for a few random other
things like kicking kvm out of guest context..

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: peterz@infradead.org (Peter Zijlstra)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] sched: provide scheduler_ipi() callback in response to smp_send_reschedule()
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:43:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1295296983.30950.369.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1295296310.2148.29.camel@pasglop>

On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 07:31 +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> 
> Beware of false positive, I've used "fake" reschedule IPIs in the past
> for other things (like kicking a CPU out of sleep state for unrelated
> reasons). Nothing that I know that is upstream today but some of that
> might come back. I'd like to avoid having to add an atomic to know if
> it's a real reschedule, will the scheduler be smart enough to not bother
> with false positives ? 

Yes it can deal with that, some will be for reschedules, some will be
for ttwu tail ends and x86 too uses this ipi for a few random other
things like kicking kvm out of guest context..

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-17 20:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-17 11:07 [PATCH] sched: provide scheduler_ipi() callback in response to smp_send_reschedule() Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 11:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 11:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 11:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 11:26   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 11:26   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 11:26   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 11:26   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 11:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 11:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 11:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 11:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 11:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 11:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 11:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 11:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 11:57       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 11:57         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 11:57         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 11:57         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 13:52       ` Chris Metcalf
2011-01-17 13:52         ` Chris Metcalf
2011-01-17 13:52         ` Chris Metcalf
2011-01-17 13:52         ` Chris Metcalf
2011-01-17 13:52         ` Chris Metcalf
2011-01-17 13:58       ` Jesper Nilsson
2011-01-17 13:58         ` Jesper Nilsson
2011-01-17 13:58         ` Jesper Nilsson
2011-01-17 13:58         ` Jesper Nilsson
2011-01-24 23:03       ` Ralf Baechle
2011-01-24 23:03         ` Ralf Baechle
2011-01-24 23:03         ` Ralf Baechle
2011-01-17 12:18 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2011-01-17 12:18   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2011-01-17 12:18   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2011-01-17 12:18   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2011-01-17 12:18   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2011-01-17 19:18 ` David Daney
2011-01-17 19:18   ` David Daney
2011-01-17 19:18   ` David Daney
2011-01-17 19:18   ` David Daney
2011-01-17 19:49 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-01-17 19:49   ` [uclinux-dist-devel] " Mike Frysinger
2011-01-17 19:49   ` Mike Frysinger
2011-01-17 19:49   ` Mike Frysinger
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTik3hE=_34Lbs944MzKpkNzqY+kCxpxmncUM2HB7-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-17 20:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 20:16       ` [uclinux-dist-devel] " Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 20:16       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 20:16       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 20:16       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 20:16       ` [uclinux-dist-devel] " Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 20:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-17 20:31   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-17 20:31   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-17 20:31   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-17 20:31   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-17 20:43   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-01-17 20:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 20:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 20:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-06 23:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-02-06 23:26   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-02-06 23:26   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-02-06 23:26   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-02-07 13:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-07 13:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-07 13:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-07 13:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-09  6:14     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-02-09  6:14       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-02-09  6:14       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-02-09  6:14       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-02-09  9:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-09  9:37         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-09  9:37         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-09  9:37         ` Peter Zijlstra
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2011-01-17 11:07 Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 11:07 Peter Zijlstra

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