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From: Joe Thornber <thornber@redhat.com>
To: LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Snapshots and disk re-use
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:09:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1298466573.19562.147.camel@ubuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D64FF3C.6080602@abpni.co.uk>

On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 12:36 +0000, Jonathan Tripathy wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> We host many Xen VMs for customers. We use LVM as the fisk storage for 
> these VMs. When a customer cancels, we generally dd their LV with 
> /dev/zero, before removing the LV.
> 
> If however we want to create a snapshot of a customer's LV, is there the 
> chance that the data may appear on a new future LV if we were to create 
> one (for a new customer)? Is is my understanding that most filesystems 
> don't actually remove data from a disk when deleting a file, but just 
> set an "ignore" tag of some sort...

I'm a bit confused about your scenario.  But I think this will help:

The snapshot device is composed of 2 sub devices, the origin and the
exception store.  Someone who only has visibility of the snapshot (ie.
your vm if your scenario is what I think it is) will have visibility of
all of the origin.  So you _do_ need to worry about data leaks on the
origin device.  Their view of the exception store is always a subset
which has been overwritten by origin data first.  So data leaks are not
an issue for the exception store.

- Joe

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-23 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-23 12:36 [linux-lvm] Snapshots and disk re-use Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-23 13:09 ` Joe Thornber [this message]
2011-02-23 13:57   ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-23 14:16     ` Joe Thornber
2011-02-23 14:18       ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-23 16:12         ` Ray Morris
2011-02-23 16:55           ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-23 17:54             ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-23 18:05               ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-23 19:34                 ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-23 18:05               ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-23 18:19                 ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-23 18:39                   ` Les Mikesell
2011-02-23 19:39                     ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-23 20:03                       ` Les Mikesell
2011-02-23 20:37                         ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-23 20:49                           ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-23 23:25                             ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-23 23:42                               ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-24  0:09                               ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-24  0:32                                 ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-24  0:37                                   ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-24  0:40                                     ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-24  2:00                                       ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-24  7:33                                         ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-24 14:50                                           ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-24 14:57                                             ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-24 15:13                                               ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-24 15:20                                                 ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-24 16:41                                                   ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-24 19:15                                                     ` Nataraj
2011-02-24 19:25                                                       ` Les Mikesell
2011-02-24 19:55                                                       ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-24 19:19                                                     ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-24 19:45                                                   ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-24 21:22                                                     ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-05 20:09                                                   ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-05 20:41                                                     ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-04-05 20:48                                                       ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-05 20:59                                                         ` James Hawtin
2011-04-05 21:36                                                           ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-05 22:42                                                             ` James Hawtin
2011-04-05 22:52                                                               ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-05 23:11                                                                 ` James Hawtin
2011-04-05 23:19                                                                   ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-05 23:39                                                                     ` James Hawtin
2011-04-06  0:00                                                                       ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-06  0:08                                                                         ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-04-06  0:14                                                                           ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-06  0:16                                                                         ` James Hawtin
2011-04-06  0:28                                                                           ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-06  0:38                                                                             ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-04-06  0:43                                                                               ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-04-06  1:36                                                                                 ` James Hawtin
2011-04-06  1:47                                                                                   ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-06  1:53                                                                                     ` James Hawtin
2011-04-06  0:47                                                                               ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-06  0:42                                                                             ` James Hawtin
2011-04-06  0:50                                                                               ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-06  1:20                                                                                 ` James Hawtin
2011-04-06  1:45                                                                                   ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-23 19:49                     ` Nataraj
2011-02-23 19:24                   ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-23 19:07                 ` [linux-lvm] Problem executing lvm related commands Tinni
2011-02-23 19:33               ` [linux-lvm] Snapshots and disk re-use Phillip Susi
2011-02-23 19:45                 ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-23 19:56                   ` Nataraj
2011-02-23 13:18 ` Sunil_Gupta2

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