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From: James Hawtin <oolon@ankh.org>
To: LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Snapshots and disk re-use
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 01:36:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D9BC3A8.1070005@ankh.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.00.1104052040090.21075@bmsred.bmsi.com>

On 06/04/2011 00:43, Stuart D. Gathman wrote:
> In fact, since you still have to zero an LV before removing, you might 
> as well
> zero an LV when you allocate.  Same overhead.  Then you don't need to 
> mess
> with any of these schemes to deal with snapshots.  Did we already cover
> that obvious solution?  We did discuss a utility to optimize zeroing an
> already mostly zero LV.
>

I think you mean and lv of a virtual machine rather than snap shot, not 
sure how you could zero the cow. Stuart does have a good point here, 
there is another source of leak outside of snapshots (and probably 
worse), if you delete an lv the create a new one over the same PEs the 
data from then old lv will be there, save a few k that is zeroed at the 
front (to help with fs/label creation). This is worse as it is in order 
data that the cow from a snap is not. Geting a while fs back is very 
possible.

Try this test

lvcreate -L 256m -n test_lv osiris_l1_vg
yes | dd of=/dev/osiris_l1_vg/test_lv
pvdisplay --map
lvremove /dev/osiris_l1_vg/test_lv
lvcreate -L 256m -n test_lv osiris_l1_vg
pvdisplay --map
od -ha /dev/osiris_l1_vg/test_lv

James

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-06  1:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-23 12:36 [linux-lvm] Snapshots and disk re-use Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-23 13:09 ` Joe Thornber
2011-02-23 13:57   ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-23 14:16     ` Joe Thornber
2011-02-23 14:18       ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-23 16:12         ` Ray Morris
2011-02-23 16:55           ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-23 17:54             ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-23 18:05               ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-23 19:34                 ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-23 18:05               ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-23 18:19                 ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-23 18:39                   ` Les Mikesell
2011-02-23 19:39                     ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-23 20:03                       ` Les Mikesell
2011-02-23 20:37                         ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-23 20:49                           ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-23 23:25                             ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-23 23:42                               ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-24  0:09                               ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-24  0:32                                 ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-24  0:37                                   ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-24  0:40                                     ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-24  2:00                                       ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-24  7:33                                         ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-24 14:50                                           ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-24 14:57                                             ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-24 15:13                                               ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-24 15:20                                                 ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-24 16:41                                                   ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-24 19:15                                                     ` Nataraj
2011-02-24 19:25                                                       ` Les Mikesell
2011-02-24 19:55                                                       ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-24 19:19                                                     ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-24 19:45                                                   ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-24 21:22                                                     ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-05 20:09                                                   ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-05 20:41                                                     ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-04-05 20:48                                                       ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-05 20:59                                                         ` James Hawtin
2011-04-05 21:36                                                           ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-05 22:42                                                             ` James Hawtin
2011-04-05 22:52                                                               ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-05 23:11                                                                 ` James Hawtin
2011-04-05 23:19                                                                   ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-05 23:39                                                                     ` James Hawtin
2011-04-06  0:00                                                                       ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-06  0:08                                                                         ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-04-06  0:14                                                                           ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-06  0:16                                                                         ` James Hawtin
2011-04-06  0:28                                                                           ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-06  0:38                                                                             ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-04-06  0:43                                                                               ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-04-06  1:36                                                                                 ` James Hawtin [this message]
2011-04-06  1:47                                                                                   ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-06  1:53                                                                                     ` James Hawtin
2011-04-06  0:47                                                                               ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-06  0:42                                                                             ` James Hawtin
2011-04-06  0:50                                                                               ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-04-06  1:20                                                                                 ` James Hawtin
2011-04-06  1:45                                                                                   ` Jonathan Tripathy
2011-02-23 19:49                     ` Nataraj
2011-02-23 19:24                   ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-23 19:07                 ` [linux-lvm] Problem executing lvm related commands Tinni
2011-02-23 19:33               ` [linux-lvm] Snapshots and disk re-use Phillip Susi
2011-02-23 19:45                 ` Stuart D. Gathman
2011-02-23 19:56                   ` Nataraj
2011-02-23 13:18 ` Sunil_Gupta2

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