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From: Colin Ian King <colin.king@canonical.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	mgorman@novell.com
Subject: Re: [BUG] fatal hang untarring 90GB file, possibly writeback related.
Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 10:54:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1304416440.6005.5.camel@lenovo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110428171826.GZ4658@suse.de>

On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 18:18 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:56:17AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 11:50 -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > This is the output of perf record -g -a -f sleep 5
> > > 
> > > (hopefully the list won't choke)
> > 
> > Um, this one actually shows kswapd
> > 
> > James
> > 
> > ---
> > 
> > # Events: 6K cycles
> > #
> > # Overhead      Command        Shared Object                                   Symbol
> > # ........  ...........  ...................  .......................................
> > #
> >     20.41%      kswapd0  [kernel.kallsyms]    [k] shrink_slab
> >                 |
> >                 --- shrink_slab
> >                    |          
> >                    |--99.91%-- kswapd
> >                    |          kthread
> >                    |          kernel_thread_helper
> >                     --0.09%-- [...]
> > 
> 
> Ok. I can't see how the patch "mm: vmscan: reclaim order-0 and use
> compaction instead of lumpy reclaim" is related unless we are seeing
> two problems that happen to manifest in a similar manner.

That is a distinct possibility.
> 
> However, there were a number of changes made to dcache in particular
> for 2.6.38. Specifically thinks like dentry_kill use trylock and is
> happy to loop around if it fails to acquire anything. See things like
> this for example;
> 
[ text deleted ]

> Way hey, cgroups are also in the mix. How jolly.
> 
> Is systemd a common element of the machines hitting this bug by any
> chance?

Not in my case, using upstart on my machine.
> 
Colin



WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Colin Ian King <colin.king@canonical.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	mgorman@novell.com
Subject: Re: [BUG] fatal hang untarring 90GB file, possibly writeback related.
Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 10:54:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1304416440.6005.5.camel@lenovo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110428171826.GZ4658@suse.de>

On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 18:18 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:56:17AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 11:50 -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > This is the output of perf record -g -a -f sleep 5
> > > 
> > > (hopefully the list won't choke)
> > 
> > Um, this one actually shows kswapd
> > 
> > James
> > 
> > ---
> > 
> > # Events: 6K cycles
> > #
> > # Overhead      Command        Shared Object                                   Symbol
> > # ........  ...........  ...................  .......................................
> > #
> >     20.41%      kswapd0  [kernel.kallsyms]    [k] shrink_slab
> >                 |
> >                 --- shrink_slab
> >                    |          
> >                    |--99.91%-- kswapd
> >                    |          kthread
> >                    |          kernel_thread_helper
> >                     --0.09%-- [...]
> > 
> 
> Ok. I can't see how the patch "mm: vmscan: reclaim order-0 and use
> compaction instead of lumpy reclaim" is related unless we are seeing
> two problems that happen to manifest in a similar manner.

That is a distinct possibility.
> 
> However, there were a number of changes made to dcache in particular
> for 2.6.38. Specifically thinks like dentry_kill use trylock and is
> happy to loop around if it fails to acquire anything. See things like
> this for example;
> 
[ text deleted ]

> Way hey, cgroups are also in the mix. How jolly.
> 
> Is systemd a common element of the machines hitting this bug by any
> chance?

Not in my case, using upstart on my machine.
> 
Colin


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-03  9:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-27 16:09 [BUG] fatal hang untarring 90GB file, possibly writeback related James Bottomley
2011-04-27 16:09 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 16:33 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 16:33   ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 16:50   ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 16:50     ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 16:54     ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 16:54       ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 17:21       ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 17:21         ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 17:34         ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 17:34           ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 17:50           ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 17:50             ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 18:25             ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-27 18:25               ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 15:57               ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 15:57                 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 20:05             ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 20:05               ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 11:36               ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 11:36                 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 12:29                 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 12:29                   ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 13:42                   ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 13:42                     ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 13:45                     ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 13:45                       ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 14:01                       ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 14:04                         ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 14:04                           ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 15:23                           ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 14:25                         ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:25                           ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:33                           ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:33                             ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:58                             ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 22:40                               ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 22:40                                 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 22:44                                 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 22:44                                   ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03 18:55                                 ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-03 18:55                                   ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 16:11                             ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 16:11                               ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 14:49                   ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 14:49                     ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 13:52                 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 13:52                   ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:07                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 14:07                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 14:25                     ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 14:25                       ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 15:08                       ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 15:08                         ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 16:01                         ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 16:01                           ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 16:50                           ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 16:50                             ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 16:56                             ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 16:56                               ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 17:18                               ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 17:18                                 ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 18:30                                 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 18:30                                   ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 19:21                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 19:21                                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 19:59                                     ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 19:59                                       ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 20:27                                       ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 20:27                                         ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-29 15:02                                         ` James Bottomley
2011-04-29 15:02                                           ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 21:12                                       ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 21:12                                         ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 22:43                                         ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 22:43                                           ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03  9:13                                           ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-03  9:13                                             ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-03 14:13                                             ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03 14:13                                               ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03 14:22                                               ` James Bottomley
2011-05-06  7:42                                                 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06  7:42                                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06  8:07                                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-09 18:16                                                     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-09 18:16                                                       ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 10:21                                                       ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 10:21                                                         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 10:33                                                         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-10 10:33                                                           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-10 14:01                                                         ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 14:01                                                           ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 14:35                                                           ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 14:35                                                             ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 15:29                                                             ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 15:29                                                               ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 15:57                                                               ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 15:57                                                                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 17:05                                                                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 17:05                                                                   ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 17:17                                                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 17:17                                                                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 17:29                                                                     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 17:29                                                                       ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 21:08                                                               ` Raghavendra D Prabhu
2011-05-11  9:16                                                                 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-11  9:16                                                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 11:42                                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 11:42                                                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 15:44                                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 15:44                                                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 19:14                                                     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-06 19:14                                                       ` James Bottomley
2011-05-06 19:37                                                       ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 19:37                                                         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10  5:37                                                     ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-10  5:37                                                       ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-06 15:58                                                   ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03  9:54                                 ` Colin Ian King [this message]
2011-05-03  9:54                                   ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 17:10                         ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 17:10                           ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28  0:37         ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-28  0:37           ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-29 10:23         ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-29 10:23           ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-29 15:37           ` James Bottomley
2011-04-29 15:37             ` James Bottomley
2011-04-29 16:31             ` James Bottomley
2011-04-29 16:31               ` James Bottomley
2011-04-29 18:02               ` James Bottomley
2011-04-29 18:02                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-02 20:04                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-02 20:04                   ` James Bottomley

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