From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>, Jens Axboe <jaxboe@fusionio.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrace@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] blktrace: add FLUSH/FUA support
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 23:19:24 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1311895164.1913.57.camel@leonhard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x494o26ma11.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com>
2011-07-28 (목), 16:21 -0400, Jeff Moyer:
> Hi,
>
> Sorry, I don't have the original posting of this message, so I've just
> cut-n-paste from the archives on lkml.org:
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/6/1/235
>
Hello, Jeff.
Thanks for finding and replying to this :)
> The proposal was this:
>
> > Add FLUSH/FUA support to blktrace. As FLUSH precedes WRITE and/or
> > FUA follows WRITE, use the same 'F' flag for both cases and
> > distinguish them by their (relative) position. The end results
> > look like (other flags might be shown also):
> >
> > - WRITE: W
> > - WRITE_FLUSH: FW
> > - WRITE_FUA: WF
> > - WRITE_FLUSH_FUA: FWF
>
> I'm not sure I'll ever be able to keep that straight. How about we use
> 'F' for FUA, since FUA is capitalized anyway, and use 'f' for flush?
> Too subtle?
>
Either way is fine to me. Jens?
> Next...
>
> > @@ -14,7 +14,7 @@
> > enum blktrace_cat {
> > BLK_TC_READ = 1 << 0, /* reads */
> > BLK_TC_WRITE = 1 << 1, /* writes */
> > - BLK_TC_BARRIER = 1 << 2, /* barrier */
> > + BLK_TC_FUA = 1 << 2, /* fua requests */
>
> I would prefer to replace BARRIER with FLUSH, as I think they are closer
> relatives. Doing it the way you've suggested would mean that older
> blktrace user-space would report FUA as a Barrier.
>
I thought about that too. But as I said in the changelog, it led to a
negative number at the rhs of MASC_TC_BIT calculation, so the end result
was not good.
In the meantime, I found that Matthew Wilcox posted a patch which
relocates some REQ_ flags to appropriate positions.
https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/6/2/324
With the patch, it seems ok to replace BARRIER with FLUSH. However it
looks like the patch isn't included into the tree yet.
BTW, I'm thinking about user-space again. I'm not sure it's ok if older
blktrace tool reports FLUSH/FUA as BARRIER. Actually I posted a patch
that treats FLUSH as BARRIER [1], and Jens and others commented we
should not do that.
To end that, I could leave BLK_TC_BARRIER as is, and add
BLK_TC_{FLUSH,FUA} at the end of blktrace_cat. But as we exhause space
in the 16-bit act_mask, it would require a substantial change.
Any thoughts?
> Comments? No matter what's agreed upon, we should get this in sooner
> rather than later, as it's a big missing piece in trying to diagnose
> performance issues!
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff
Thanks.
[1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/5/27/206
--
Regards,
Namhyung Kim
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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>, Jens Axboe <jaxboe@fusionio.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrace@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] blktrace: add FLUSH/FUA support
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:19:24 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1311895164.1913.57.camel@leonhard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x494o26ma11.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com>
2011-07-28 (목), 16:21 -0400, Jeff Moyer:
> Hi,
>
> Sorry, I don't have the original posting of this message, so I've just
> cut-n-paste from the archives on lkml.org:
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/6/1/235
>
Hello, Jeff.
Thanks for finding and replying to this :)
> The proposal was this:
>
> > Add FLUSH/FUA support to blktrace. As FLUSH precedes WRITE and/or
> > FUA follows WRITE, use the same 'F' flag for both cases and
> > distinguish them by their (relative) position. The end results
> > look like (other flags might be shown also):
> >
> > - WRITE: W
> > - WRITE_FLUSH: FW
> > - WRITE_FUA: WF
> > - WRITE_FLUSH_FUA: FWF
>
> I'm not sure I'll ever be able to keep that straight. How about we use
> 'F' for FUA, since FUA is capitalized anyway, and use 'f' for flush?
> Too subtle?
>
Either way is fine to me. Jens?
> Next...
>
> > @@ -14,7 +14,7 @@
> > enum blktrace_cat {
> > BLK_TC_READ = 1 << 0, /* reads */
> > BLK_TC_WRITE = 1 << 1, /* writes */
> > - BLK_TC_BARRIER = 1 << 2, /* barrier */
> > + BLK_TC_FUA = 1 << 2, /* fua requests */
>
> I would prefer to replace BARRIER with FLUSH, as I think they are closer
> relatives. Doing it the way you've suggested would mean that older
> blktrace user-space would report FUA as a Barrier.
>
I thought about that too. But as I said in the changelog, it led to a
negative number at the rhs of MASC_TC_BIT calculation, so the end result
was not good.
In the meantime, I found that Matthew Wilcox posted a patch which
relocates some REQ_ flags to appropriate positions.
https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/6/2/324
With the patch, it seems ok to replace BARRIER with FLUSH. However it
looks like the patch isn't included into the tree yet.
BTW, I'm thinking about user-space again. I'm not sure it's ok if older
blktrace tool reports FLUSH/FUA as BARRIER. Actually I posted a patch
that treats FLUSH as BARRIER [1], and Jens and others commented we
should not do that.
To end that, I could leave BLK_TC_BARRIER as is, and add
BLK_TC_{FLUSH,FUA} at the end of blktrace_cat. But as we exhause space
in the 16-bit act_mask, it would require a substantial change.
Any thoughts?
> Comments? No matter what's agreed upon, we should get this in sooner
> rather than later, as it's a big missing piece in trying to diagnose
> performance issues!
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff
Thanks.
[1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/5/27/206
--
Regards,
Namhyung Kim
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Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-07-28 20:21 [PATCH] blktrace: add FLUSH/FUA support Jeff Moyer
2011-07-28 23:19 ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2011-07-28 23:19 ` Namhyung Kim
2011-07-29 13:13 ` Jeff Moyer
2011-07-29 13:13 ` Jeff Moyer
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2011-06-07 23:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-06-08 3:11 ` Namhyung Kim
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