From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@au1.ibm.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mackerras <pmac@au1.ibm.com>,
"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
David Gibson <dwg@au1.ibm.com>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: kvm PCI assignment & VFIO ramblings
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:26:11 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1312539971.8598.29.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110804104105.GC22329@8bytes.org>
On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 12:41 +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 02:27:36PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > It's not clear to me how we could skip it. With VT-d, we'd have to
> > implement an emulated interrupt remapper and hope that the guest picks
> > unused indexes in the host interrupt remapping table before it could do
> > anything useful with direct access to the MSI-X table. Maybe AMD IOMMU
> > makes this easier?
>
> AMD IOMMU provides remapping tables per-device, and not a global one.
> But that does not make direct guest-access to the MSI-X table safe. The
> table contains the table contains the interrupt-type and the vector
> which is used as an index into the remapping table by the IOMMU. So when
> the guest writes into its MSI-X table the remapping-table in the host
> needs to be updated too.
Right, you need paravirt to avoid filtering :-)
IE the problem is two fold:
- Getting the right value in the table / remapper so things work
(paravirt)
- Protecting against the guest somewhat managing to change the value in
the table (either directly or via a backdoor access to its own config
space).
The later for us comes from the HW PE filtering of the MSI transactions.
Cheers,
Ben.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
David Gibson <dwg@au1.ibm.com>, Paul Mackerras <pmac@au1.ibm.com>,
Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@au1.ibm.com>,
"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: kvm PCI assignment & VFIO ramblings
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:26:11 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1312539971.8598.29.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110804104105.GC22329@8bytes.org>
On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 12:41 +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 02:27:36PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > It's not clear to me how we could skip it. With VT-d, we'd have to
> > implement an emulated interrupt remapper and hope that the guest picks
> > unused indexes in the host interrupt remapping table before it could do
> > anything useful with direct access to the MSI-X table. Maybe AMD IOMMU
> > makes this easier?
>
> AMD IOMMU provides remapping tables per-device, and not a global one.
> But that does not make direct guest-access to the MSI-X table safe. The
> table contains the table contains the interrupt-type and the vector
> which is used as an index into the remapping table by the IOMMU. So when
> the guest writes into its MSI-X table the remapping-table in the host
> needs to be updated too.
Right, you need paravirt to avoid filtering :-)
IE the problem is two fold:
- Getting the right value in the table / remapper so things work
(paravirt)
- Protecting against the guest somewhat managing to change the value in
the table (either directly or via a backdoor access to its own config
space).
The later for us comes from the HW PE filtering of the MSI transactions.
Cheers,
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-05 10:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 322+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-07-29 23:58 kvm PCI assignment & VFIO ramblings Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-29 23:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-30 18:20 ` Alex Williamson
2011-07-30 18:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-07-30 18:20 ` Alex Williamson
2011-07-30 23:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-30 23:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-30 23:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-01 18:59 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-01 18:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-01 18:59 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 2:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-02 2:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-02 2:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-30 23:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-30 23:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-30 23:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-02 8:28 ` David Gibson
2011-08-02 8:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2011-08-02 8:28 ` David Gibson
2011-08-02 18:14 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 18:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 18:14 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 18:35 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 18:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 18:35 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-03 2:04 ` David Gibson
2011-08-03 2:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2011-08-03 2:04 ` David Gibson
2011-08-03 3:44 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-03 3:44 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-03 3:44 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-04 0:39 ` David Gibson
2011-08-04 0:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2011-08-08 8:28 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 8:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 8:28 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-09 23:24 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-09 23:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-09 23:24 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-10 2:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-10 2:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-10 2:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-20 16:51 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-20 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-20 16:51 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-22 5:55 ` David Gibson
2011-08-22 5:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2011-08-22 5:55 ` David Gibson
2011-08-22 15:45 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-22 15:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-22 21:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 21:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 21:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 19:30 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 19:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 19:30 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 23:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 23:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-24 3:40 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-24 3:40 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-08-24 3:40 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-24 14:47 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 14:47 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 8:43 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-24 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-24 8:43 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-24 14:56 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 14:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 14:56 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 11:01 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 11:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 11:01 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 2:38 ` David Gibson
2011-08-23 2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2011-08-23 2:38 ` David Gibson
2011-08-23 16:23 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 16:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 16:23 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 23:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 23:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 23:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-24 3:36 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-24 3:36 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-08-24 3:36 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-22 6:30 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 6:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 6:30 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 10:46 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 10:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 10:46 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 10:51 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 10:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 10:51 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 12:36 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 12:36 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 12:36 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 12:42 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 12:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 12:42 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 12:55 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 12:55 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 13:06 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 13:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 13:06 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 13:15 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 13:15 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 13:17 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 13:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 13:17 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 14:37 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 14:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 14:37 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 20:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 20:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 20:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 17:25 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 17:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 17:25 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 19:17 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-22 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-22 19:17 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 13:14 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 13:14 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 17:08 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 17:08 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 17:08 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 8:52 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24 8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24 8:52 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24 15:07 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 15:07 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 15:07 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 12:31 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 12:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 12:31 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 13:25 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-25 13:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-08-25 13:25 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 4:24 ` David Gibson
2011-08-26 4:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2011-08-26 4:24 ` David Gibson
2011-08-26 9:24 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-26 9:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-26 9:24 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-28 13:14 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-28 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-28 13:14 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-28 13:56 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-28 13:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-28 13:56 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-28 14:04 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-28 14:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-28 14:04 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-30 16:14 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-30 16:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-30 16:14 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 21:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 21:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 13:18 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 13:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 13:18 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 23:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 23:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 23:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-24 8:53 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24 8:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24 8:53 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 20:29 ` aafabbri
2011-08-22 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] " aafabbri
2011-08-22 20:29 ` aafabbri
2011-08-22 20:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 20:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 21:38 ` aafabbri
2011-08-22 21:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " aafabbri
2011-08-22 21:38 ` aafabbri
2011-08-22 21:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 21:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 21:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 0:52 ` aafabbri
2011-08-23 0:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " aafabbri
2011-08-23 0:52 ` aafabbri
2011-08-23 6:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 6:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 6:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 11:09 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 11:09 ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 11:09 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 17:01 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 17:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 17:01 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 17:33 ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-23 17:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-23 17:33 ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-23 18:01 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 18:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 18:01 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 9:10 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-24 9:10 ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-24 9:10 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-24 21:13 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 21:13 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 21:13 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 10:54 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 10:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 10:54 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 15:38 ` Don Dutile
2011-08-25 15:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " Don Dutile
2011-08-25 15:38 ` Don Dutile
2011-08-25 16:46 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 16:46 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 17:20 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 17:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 17:20 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 18:05 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-25 18:05 ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-25 18:05 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-26 18:04 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-26 18:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-26 18:04 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-30 16:13 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-30 16:13 ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-30 16:13 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 11:04 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 11:04 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 16:54 ` aafabbri
2011-08-23 16:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " aafabbri
2011-08-23 16:54 ` aafabbri
2011-08-24 9:14 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24 9:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24 9:14 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24 9:33 ` David Gibson
2011-08-24 9:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2011-08-24 9:33 ` David Gibson
2011-08-24 11:03 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24 11:03 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-26 4:20 ` David Gibson
2011-08-26 4:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2011-08-26 4:20 ` David Gibson
2011-08-26 9:33 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-26 9:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-26 9:33 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-26 14:07 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 14:07 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 15:24 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-26 15:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-26 15:24 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-26 15:29 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 15:29 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 15:29 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 17:52 ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-26 17:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-26 19:35 ` Chris Wright
2011-08-26 19:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Chris Wright
2011-08-26 19:35 ` Chris Wright
2011-08-26 20:17 ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-26 20:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-26 20:17 ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-26 21:06 ` Chris Wright
2011-08-26 21:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Chris Wright
2011-08-26 21:06 ` Chris Wright
2011-08-30 1:29 ` David Gibson
2011-08-30 1:29 ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2011-08-30 1:29 ` David Gibson
2011-08-04 10:35 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-04 10:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-04 10:35 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-07-30 22:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-30 22:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-01 16:40 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-01 16:40 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 1:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-31 14:09 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-31 14:09 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-01 20:27 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-01 20:27 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 8:32 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-02 8:32 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-04 10:41 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-04 10:41 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-05 10:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2011-08-05 10:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-05 12:57 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-05 12:57 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-02 1:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-02 1:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-02 9:12 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-02 9:12 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-02 12:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-02 12:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-02 13:39 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-02 13:39 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-02 15:34 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 15:34 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 21:29 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-08-02 21:29 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-08-03 1:02 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-03 1:02 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 14:39 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 14:39 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-01 2:48 ` David Gibson
2011-08-04 10:27 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-04 10:27 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-05 10:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-05 10:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-05 13:44 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-05 13:44 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-05 22:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-05 22:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-05 15:10 ` Alex Williamson
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