From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers-tD+1rO4QERM@public.gmane.org>
To: Linus Torvalds
<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Lennart Poettering
<mzxreary-uLTowLwuiw4b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org>,
akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
roland-/Z5OmTQCD9xF6kxbq+BtvQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: + prctl-add-pr_setget_child_reaper-to-allow-simple-process-supervision .patch added to -mm tree
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 02:48:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1313714913.29251.7.camel@mop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyFnMRMuWSSpytwvpk9u5YysMRfTRELyhGX9grWbGyi6Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 15:22 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers-tD+1rO4QERM@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > It will be used for all new service managers. UNIX is a pain if you want
> > to watch your children regarding double-forking, if you are not init.
>
> I'll believe that "all new service managers" when I see it. Until
> then, a new feature is just that - a new feature. Which nobody uses.
That feature will be used in Fedora 17 if we get that properly working.
Promised!
So far we have a pretty good track record in immediately using the stuff
we add to the kernel. People working on the other side usually complain
that we always require such new kernels. :)
> > If you want, we can make the forked processes inherit a flag if the
> > 'subreaper' should be looked up at all. Then we have almost zero
> > overhead if the feature isn't used. You think that's needed?
>
> Yes, I do. Because with any current system, that "almost zero
> overhead" is just totally wasted effort entirely for zero gain. Which
> just makes me go "Eww".
Yeah, understood. I'll change it with the next round, and we can see how
to go from there.
Thanks,
Kay
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From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-man@vger.kernel.org, roland@hack.frob.com
Subject: Re: + prctl-add-pr_setget_child_reaper-to-allow-simple-process-supervision .patch added to -mm tree
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 02:48:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1313714913.29251.7.camel@mop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyFnMRMuWSSpytwvpk9u5YysMRfTRELyhGX9grWbGyi6Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 15:22 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org> wrote:
> >
> > It will be used for all new service managers. UNIX is a pain if you want
> > to watch your children regarding double-forking, if you are not init.
>
> I'll believe that "all new service managers" when I see it. Until
> then, a new feature is just that - a new feature. Which nobody uses.
That feature will be used in Fedora 17 if we get that properly working.
Promised!
So far we have a pretty good track record in immediately using the stuff
we add to the kernel. People working on the other side usually complain
that we always require such new kernels. :)
> > If you want, we can make the forked processes inherit a flag if the
> > 'subreaper' should be looked up at all. Then we have almost zero
> > overhead if the feature isn't used. You think that's needed?
>
> Yes, I do. Because with any current system, that "almost zero
> overhead" is just totally wasted effort entirely for zero gain. Which
> just makes me go "Eww".
Yeah, understood. I'll change it with the next round, and we can see how
to go from there.
Thanks,
Kay
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-19 0:48 UTC|newest]
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2011-08-16 20:11 + prctl-add-pr_setget_child_reaper-to-allow-simple-process-supervision.patch added to -mm tree akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b
[not found] ` <201108162011.p7GKBcY0023134-AB4EexQrvXRQetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 11:55 ` + prctl-add-pr_setget_child_reaper-to-allow-simple-process-supervision .patch " Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-17 11:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20110817115543.GA8745-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 13:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-17 13:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20110817130531.GA12204-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 13:21 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-17 13:21 ` Kay Sievers
[not found] ` <CAPXgP10A4rcQLht--h1d3PJE=oOrm=MSjGXTUSKVF+ssnkt_gw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 13:37 ` Alan Cox
2011-08-17 13:37 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20110817143728.7abc955b-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-23 0:30 ` Colin Walters
2011-08-23 0:30 ` Colin Walters
2011-08-17 14:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-17 14:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-17 16:03 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-08-17 16:03 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-08-17 13:13 ` Kay Sievers
[not found] ` <CAPXgP12rYf2HmmsJAuJw=nrtcjTRR1WzDhLNM47eKhKA1UTfJQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 13:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-17 13:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20110817134516.GA14136-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 15:45 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-17 15:45 ` Kay Sievers
[not found] ` <CAPXgP101N_GESzpqu=P_H8cLoekMzb2_W2eWyAqATSjm4Gj9CA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 15:53 ` Alan Cox
2011-08-17 15:53 ` Alan Cox
2011-08-17 16:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-17 16:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20110817162041.GA21406-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 16:47 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-17 16:47 ` Kay Sievers
[not found] ` <CAPXgP13Dn2c-OnYg-Cty5r4JbqeH_zYPtXDj5GAfK1btoKYmDg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 18:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-17 18:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20110817185709.GA27663-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 20:56 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-17 20:56 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-18 12:43 ` Lennart Poettering
2011-08-18 12:43 ` Lennart Poettering
[not found] ` <20110818124353.GA2839-kS5D54t9nk0aINubkmmoJbNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-18 14:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-18 14:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-18 18:11 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-18 18:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-18 18:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20110818184857.GA12094-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-19 1:31 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-19 1:31 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-19 12:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-19 12:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20110819122503.GA8411-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-19 12:44 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-19 12:44 ` Kay Sievers
[not found] ` <CAPXgP11KC2fTWBVYo6CBXe924YAyTGhx9=UTBDf4cP5Acuo0NA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-19 13:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-19 13:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-19 14:20 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-19 14:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-19 14:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20110819145815.GA15420-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-20 15:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-20 15:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-21 18:33 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-22 11:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-22 11:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20110822111402.GA13248-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-22 23:48 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-22 23:48 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-18 21:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-18 21:23 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <CA+55aFxGDbNOhNQJe_LpUMcJCGcW8qFFWzC9H0_KW26Xzb0cXw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-18 21:55 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-18 21:55 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-18 22:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-18 22:22 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <CA+55aFyFnMRMuWSSpytwvpk9u5YysMRfTRELyhGX9grWbGyi6Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-19 0:48 ` Kay Sievers [this message]
2011-08-19 0:48 ` Kay Sievers
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