busybox utility

busybox utility

[naveen yadav]

Dear all,

I am checking busybox utility, Is there any other package available
similar to busybox which ?we can use in embedded system .

Thanks

busybox utility

[naveen yadav]

Dear all,

I am checking busybox utility, Is there any other package available
similar to busybox which  we can use in embedded system .

Thanks

busybox utility

[Thomas Petazzoni]

Le Tue, 22 Nov 2011 14:05:14 +0530,
naveen yadav <yad.naveen@gmail.com> a ?crit :

> I am checking busybox utility, Is there any other package available
> similar to busybox which ?we can use in embedded system .

This question is not kernel-related, so it shouldn't be posted on
linux-kernel@ or kernelnewbies at .

As an alternative to Busybox, you might want to have a look at
Embutils <http://www.fefe.de/embutils/> or probably the Toolbox thing
from Android. But none of them have the same amount of features that
Busybox has.

Thomas
-- 
Thomas Petazzoni, Free Electrons
Kernel, drivers, real-time and embedded Linux
development, consulting, training and support.
http://free-electrons.com

busybox utility

[Jeff Haran]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: kernelnewbies-bounces at kernelnewbies.org [mailto:kernelnewbies-
> bounces at kernelnewbies.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Petazzoni
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 1:34 AM
> To: kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org
> Subject: Re: busybox utility
> 
> Le Tue, 22 Nov 2011 14:05:14 +0530,
> naveen yadav <yad.naveen@gmail.com> a ?crit :
> 
> > I am checking busybox utility, Is there any other package available
> > similar to busybox which ?we can use in embedded system .
> 
> This question is not kernel-related, so it shouldn't be posted on
> linux-kernel@ or kernelnewbies at .
> 

Oh, give me a break. "kernelnewbies", as in "newbie", as in don't know their way around yet.

It's a valid point that questions like this shouldn't go to linux-kernel, but if newbies can't post questions to a newbies mailing list without fear of being chastised for it, then I don't what the list is for.

Jeff Haran

busybox utility

[Thomas Petazzoni]

Le Tue, 22 Nov 2011 10:11:26 -0800,
"Jeff Haran" <jharan@bytemobile.com> a ?crit :

> > This question is not kernel-related, so it shouldn't be posted on
> > linux-kernel@ or kernelnewbies at .
> 
> Oh, give me a break. "kernelnewbies", as in "newbie", as in don't
> know their way around yet.
> 
> It's a valid point that questions like this shouldn't go to
> linux-kernel, but if newbies can't post questions to a newbies
> mailing list without fear of being chastised for it, then I don't
> what the list is for.

Sorry if my sentence felt offensive. I think the purpose of the newbies
mailing list is also for newbies to *learn* their way around, and
explaining that posting a question on the right mailing list is I think
important. I have no problem with "newbies" doing mistakes, otherwise I
wouldn't be subscribed on this list and I wouldn't reply to questions.
So, really, my statement was really for information, but I understand
that my wording might have been understood differently. Apologies if
that was the case.

Best regards,

Thomas
-- 
Thomas Petazzoni, Free Electrons
Kernel, drivers, real-time and embedded Linux
development, consulting, training and support.
http://free-electrons.com

busybox utility

[naveen yadav]

Dear Friends thanks for reply,

I post on Kernel newbies since i could not found any good place to post.
We do not want to use busybox due to its licence and security issue.
So is there any alternate to busybox ..

Thanks


On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Thomas Petazzoni
<thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com> wrote:
> Le Tue, 22 Nov 2011 10:11:26 -0800,
> "Jeff Haran" <jharan@bytemobile.com> a ?crit :
>
>> > This question is not kernel-related, so it shouldn't be posted on
>> > linux-kernel@ or kernelnewbies at .
>>
>> Oh, give me a break. "kernelnewbies", as in "newbie", as in don't
>> know their way around yet.
>>
>> It's a valid point that questions like this shouldn't go to
>> linux-kernel, but if newbies can't post questions to a newbies
>> mailing list without fear of being chastised for it, then I don't
>> what the list is for.
>
> Sorry if my sentence felt offensive. I think the purpose of the newbies
> mailing list is also for newbies to *learn* their way around, and
> explaining that posting a question on the right mailing list is I think
> important. I have no problem with "newbies" doing mistakes, otherwise I
> wouldn't be subscribed on this list and I wouldn't reply to questions.
> So, really, my statement was really for information, but I understand
> that my wording might have been understood differently. Apologies if
> that was the case.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Thomas
> --
> Thomas Petazzoni, Free Electrons
> Kernel, drivers, real-time and embedded Linux
> development, consulting, training and support.
> http://free-electrons.com
>
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> Kernelnewbies mailing list
> Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org
> http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
>

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[Mandeep Sandhu]

> I post on Kernel newbies since i could not found any good place to post.
> We do not want to use busybox due to its licence and security issue.

What security issue are you concerned about? Can you explain your
concern a little more.

Also, if you have some busybox specific question, ppl on the busybox
mailing list will be able to help you better.

-mandeep

busybox utility

[naveen yadav]

Hi All,

Thanks for your answer.

I want to know is there any similar package like busybox we can use in
embedded product.
I found few of them but could not found as good as busybox. so this is
reason i ask.

1. http://www.fefe.de/embutils/
2. https://github.com/asdf-systems/gobox
3. http://www.landley.net/code/toybox/about.html

For security issue in busybox. I could not find detail but below slide
mention it .
https://speakerd.s3.amazonaws.com/presentations/4e9334432deb290054011ba7/slides.pdf

Thanks

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Bernd Petrovitsch
<bernd@petrovitsch.priv.at> wrote:
> On Mit, 2011-11-23 at 10:42 +0530, Mandeep Sandhu wrote:
>> > I post on Kernel newbies since i could not found any good place to post.
>
> Why this not good place and not one of the other not good places?
> It's about newbies to the (Linux) kernel as such after all (and not
> about "Linux newbies").
> There probably more people on the busybox list or embutils ML (is there
> one?) who know about "competing products" (what's the socially accepted
> term nowadays for that?).
>
>> > We do not want to use busybox due to its licence and security issue.
>
> For the license part: Well, tough luck. What's the problem with GPLv2?
>
> Perhaps Google finds a similar package with another - proprietary? -
> license.
> There are lots of companies out there, there should be several to choose
> a vendor.
>
>> What security issue are you concerned about? Can you explain your
>> concern a little more.
>>
>> Also, if you have some busybox specific question, ppl on the busybox
>> mailing list will be able to help you better.
>
> For the security part: the busybox list would be eager to hear of any
> problems so that one can fix them.
>
> ? ? ? ?Bernd
> --
> Bernd Petrovitsch ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Email : bernd at petrovitsch.priv.at
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? LUGA : http://www.luga.at
>
>

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[Thomas Petazzoni]

Le Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:58:13 +0100,
Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@petrovitsch.priv.at> a ?crit :

> IIUC, that .pdf are just *marketing*/*sales* slides where the GoBox
> folks basically tell everyone that BusyBox is "bad" (because it is
> "huge") and GoBox is "good" (because it is allegedly small).

I fully agree here.

Those slides are pretty. But that's about the only thing that is nice
with those slides. The contents is complete bullshit with no facts to
back the statements made in those slides.

Just don't trust everything you read on the Internet. Especially things
written by marketing people.

And again, as asked by Bernd, could you expand on what your problem is
with GPLv2 ? Remember that the Linux kernel itself is under GPLv2.

Regards,

Thomas
-- 
Thomas Petazzoni, Free Electrons
Kernel, drivers, real-time and embedded Linux
development, consulting, training and support.
http://free-electrons.com

busybox utility

[Ezequiel García]

--- El mi? 23-nov-11, naveen yadav <yad.naveen@gmail.com> escribi?:

> For security issue in busybox. I could not find detail but
> below slide
> mention it .
> https://speakerd.s3.amazonaws.com/presentations/4e9334432deb290054011ba7/slides.pdf
> 

For what it's worth in our company we use busybox in our embedded product.
At least to me, it seems fairly easy to config and to install. I would give it a try, make a few tests rather than take for granted those gobox slides.

About license issues, I assume naveen has some propietary application and want to run it on some box. But as long as you don't *link* to busybox (somehow) or use *code* from it, and just launch it as 'busybox ls', I think there is no problem. Maybe I am wrong about this.

As people already told you, probably in another busybox-related mail list
you are going to find more help.

Regards,
Ezequiel.

busybox utility

[Ezequiel García]

--- El mi? 23-nov-11, naveen yadav <yad.naveen@gmail.com> escribi?:

> De: naveen yadav <yad.naveen@gmail.com>
> Asunto: Re: busybox utility
> Para: "Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>
> Cc: "Jeff Haran" <jharan@bytemobile.com>, kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org
> Fecha: mi?rcoles, 23 de noviembre de 2011, 2:52
> Dear Friends thanks for reply,
> 
> I post on Kernel newbies since i could not found any good
> place to post.

Have you tried this?

http://busybox.net/lists.html

Ezequiel.

Re: busybox utility

[Geoff Levand]

Hi Naveen,

On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 14:05 +0530, naveen yadav wrote:
> I am checking busybox utility, Is there any other package available
> similar to busybox which  we can use in embedded system .

I don't know anything about it, but I've recently heard  mention of
toybox as an alternative to busybox because of its BSD-type license:

  http://www.landley.net/code/toybox/about.html

-Geoff