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* amixer shows capability "penum" on every Simple mixer control
@ 2012-03-12 21:09 Christian Esken (KDE)
  2012-03-13  9:52 ` Takashi Iwai
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Christian Esken (KDE) @ 2012-03-12 21:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

 Hello,

 when I run amixer it shows the capability "penum" on nearly every 
 Simple mixer control.
 I posted the bug report 
 https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=5496 , but 
 Raymond asked me to report it on this mailing list ("as it is related to 
 this patch 6d511eefa05878abee9f8b9145697230de605200 Implements support 
 for capture/playback enums.").

 I posted  details for the following two examples in 
 https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=5496 :

 1) "Creative X-Fi" does not have any Enum's. alsamixer does not show 
 Enums's. amixer lists "penum" for ALL Simple mixer controls.

 2) "HDA ATI SB" has no penum's, only 3 cenum's. alsamixer shows it 
 correctly, but amixer disagrees and shows penum for NEARLY ALL Simple 
 mixer controls (except for those with cpability "cenum").


 I found this as I received several bug reports for KMix with "absurd" 
 amixer output. I could perceive from those bug report that the bug is 
 affecting a lot (or all?) sound cards.

   Christian

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* Re: amixer shows capability "penum" on every Simple mixer control
  2012-03-12 21:09 amixer shows capability "penum" on every Simple mixer control Christian Esken (KDE)
@ 2012-03-13  9:52 ` Takashi Iwai
  2012-03-13 13:32   ` Takashi Iwai
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2012-03-13  9:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christian Esken (KDE); +Cc: alsa-devel

At Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:09:35 +0100,
Christian Esken (KDE) wrote:
> 
>  Hello,
> 
>  when I run amixer it shows the capability "penum" on nearly every 
>  Simple mixer control.
>  I posted the bug report 
>  https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=5496 , but 
>  Raymond asked me to report it on this mailing list ("as it is related to 
>  this patch 6d511eefa05878abee9f8b9145697230de605200 Implements support 
>  for capture/playback enums.").
> 
>  I posted  details for the following two examples in 
>  https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=5496 :
> 
>  1) "Creative X-Fi" does not have any Enum's. alsamixer does not show 
>  Enums's. amixer lists "penum" for ALL Simple mixer controls.
> 
>  2) "HDA ATI SB" has no penum's, only 3 cenum's. alsamixer shows it 
>  correctly, but amixer disagrees and shows penum for NEARLY ALL Simple 
>  mixer controls (except for those with cpability "cenum").
> 
> 
>  I found this as I received several bug reports for KMix with "absurd" 
>  amixer output. I could perceive from those bug report that the bug is 
>  affecting a lot (or all?) sound cards.

Looks like a bug in alsa mixer abstraction, indeed.
Will take a look at it later.


thanks,

Takashi

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* Re: amixer shows capability "penum" on every Simple mixer control
  2012-03-13  9:52 ` Takashi Iwai
@ 2012-03-13 13:32   ` Takashi Iwai
  2012-03-14 12:35     ` Raymond Yau
  2012-03-16 20:18     ` Christian Esken (KDE)
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2012-03-13 13:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christian Esken (KDE); +Cc: alsa-devel

At Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:52:21 +0100,
Takashi Iwai wrote:
> 
> At Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:09:35 +0100,
> Christian Esken (KDE) wrote:
> > 
> >  Hello,
> > 
> >  when I run amixer it shows the capability "penum" on nearly every 
> >  Simple mixer control.
> >  I posted the bug report 
> >  https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=5496 , but 
> >  Raymond asked me to report it on this mailing list ("as it is related to 
> >  this patch 6d511eefa05878abee9f8b9145697230de605200 Implements support 
> >  for capture/playback enums.").
> > 
> >  I posted  details for the following two examples in 
> >  https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=5496 :
> > 
> >  1) "Creative X-Fi" does not have any Enum's. alsamixer does not show 
> >  Enums's. amixer lists "penum" for ALL Simple mixer controls.
> > 
> >  2) "HDA ATI SB" has no penum's, only 3 cenum's. alsamixer shows it 
> >  correctly, but amixer disagrees and shows penum for NEARLY ALL Simple 
> >  mixer controls (except for those with cpability "cenum").
> > 
> > 
> >  I found this as I received several bug reports for KMix with "absurd" 
> >  amixer output. I could perceive from those bug report that the bug is 
> >  affecting a lot (or all?) sound cards.
> 
> Looks like a bug in alsa mixer abstraction, indeed.
> Will take a look at it later.

I committed the fix to git tree now.  The fix patch is below.


Takashi

---
From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Subject: [PATCH] mixer: Remove redundant CHECK_ENUM() from snd_mixer_selem_is_enum*()

The functions to check whether the element is an enum don't need the
extra check of the type.  It should return simply 0 or 1 without error.

Signed-off-by: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
---
 src/mixer/simple.c |    2 --
 1 file changed, 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/mixer/simple.c b/src/mixer/simple.c
index 8079fe7..ec22a9c 100644
--- a/src/mixer/simple.c
+++ b/src/mixer/simple.c
@@ -889,7 +889,6 @@ int snd_mixer_selem_is_enumerated(snd_mixer_elem_t *elem)
 int snd_mixer_selem_is_enum_playback(snd_mixer_elem_t *elem)
 {
 	CHECK_BASIC(elem);
-	CHECK_ENUM(elem);
 	return sm_selem_ops(elem)->is(elem, SM_PLAY, SM_OPS_IS_ENUMERATED, 1);
 }
 
@@ -901,7 +900,6 @@ int snd_mixer_selem_is_enum_playback(snd_mixer_elem_t *elem)
 int snd_mixer_selem_is_enum_capture(snd_mixer_elem_t *elem)
 {
 	CHECK_BASIC(elem);
-	CHECK_ENUM(elem);
 	return sm_selem_ops(elem)->is(elem, SM_CAPT, SM_OPS_IS_ENUMERATED, 1);
 }
 
-- 
1.7.9.2

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* Re: amixer shows capability "penum" on every Simple mixer control
  2012-03-13 13:32   ` Takashi Iwai
@ 2012-03-14 12:35     ` Raymond Yau
  2012-03-14 13:43       ` Takashi Iwai
  2012-03-16 20:18     ` Christian Esken (KDE)
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Raymond Yau @ 2012-03-14 12:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takashi Iwai; +Cc: Christian Esken (KDE), alsa-devel

2012/3/13, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>:
> At Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:52:21 +0100,
> Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>
>> At Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:09:35 +0100,
>> Christian Esken (KDE) wrote:
>> >
>> >  Hello,
>> >
>> >  when I run amixer it shows the capability "penum" on nearly every
>> >  Simple mixer control.
>> >  I posted the bug report
>> >  https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=5496 , but
>> >  Raymond asked me to report it on this mailing list ("as it is related
>> > to
>> >  this patch 6d511eefa05878abee9f8b9145697230de605200 Implements support
>> >  for capture/playback enums.").
>> >
>> >  I posted  details for the following two examples in
>> >  https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=5496 :
>> >
>> >  1) "Creative X-Fi" does not have any Enum's. alsamixer does not show
>> >  Enums's. amixer lists "penum" for ALL Simple mixer controls.
>> >
>> >  2) "HDA ATI SB" has no penum's, only 3 cenum's. alsamixer shows it
>> >  correctly, but amixer disagrees and shows penum for NEARLY ALL Simple
>> >  mixer controls (except for those with cpability "cenum").
>> >
>> >
>> >  I found this as I received several bug reports for KMix with "absurd"
>> >  amixer output. I could perceive from those bug report that the bug is
>> >  affecting a lot (or all?) sound cards.
>>
>> Looks like a bug in alsa mixer abstraction, indeed.
>> Will take a look at it later.
>
> I committed the fix to git tree now.  The fix patch is below.
>
>
> Takashi
>
> ---
> From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
> Subject: [PATCH] mixer: Remove redundant CHECK_ENUM() from
> snd_mixer_selem_is_enum*()
>
> The functions to check whether the element is an enum don't need the
> extra check of the type.  It should return simply 0 or 1 without error.
>
> Signed-off-by: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
> ---
>  src/mixer/simple.c |    2 --
>  1 file changed, 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/src/mixer/simple.c b/src/mixer/simple.c
> index 8079fe7..ec22a9c 100644
> --- a/src/mixer/simple.c
> +++ b/src/mixer/simple.c
> @@ -889,7 +889,6 @@ int snd_mixer_selem_is_enumerated(snd_mixer_elem_t
> *elem)
>  int snd_mixer_selem_is_enum_playback(snd_mixer_elem_t *elem)
>  {
>  	CHECK_BASIC(elem);
> -	CHECK_ENUM(elem);
>  	return sm_selem_ops(elem)->is(elem, SM_PLAY, SM_OPS_IS_ENUMERATED, 1);
>  }
>
> @@ -901,7 +900,6 @@ int snd_mixer_selem_is_enum_playback(snd_mixer_elem_t
> *elem)
>  int snd_mixer_selem_is_enum_capture(snd_mixer_elem_t *elem)
>  {
>  	CHECK_BASIC(elem);
> -	CHECK_ENUM(elem);
>  	return sm_selem_ops(elem)->is(elem, SM_CAPT, SM_OPS_IS_ENUMERATED, 1);
>  }
>
> --
> 1.7.9.2
>

The patch changed some penum to enum

(e.g. "Independent HP"  or "Channel Mode" )


Simple mixer control 'Independent HP',0
  Capabilities: enum
  Items: 'OFF' 'ON'
  Item0: 'ON'

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* Re: amixer shows capability "penum" on every Simple mixer control
  2012-03-14 12:35     ` Raymond Yau
@ 2012-03-14 13:43       ` Takashi Iwai
  2012-03-15  0:23         ` Raymond Yau
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2012-03-14 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Raymond Yau; +Cc: Christian Esken (KDE), alsa-devel

At Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:35:33 +0800,
Raymond Yau wrote:
> 
> 2012/3/13, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>:
> > At Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:52:21 +0100,
> > Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >>
> >> At Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:09:35 +0100,
> >> Christian Esken (KDE) wrote:
> >> >
> >> >  Hello,
> >> >
> >> >  when I run amixer it shows the capability "penum" on nearly every
> >> >  Simple mixer control.
> >> >  I posted the bug report
> >> >  https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=5496 , but
> >> >  Raymond asked me to report it on this mailing list ("as it is related
> >> > to
> >> >  this patch 6d511eefa05878abee9f8b9145697230de605200 Implements support
> >> >  for capture/playback enums.").
> >> >
> >> >  I posted  details for the following two examples in
> >> >  https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=5496 :
> >> >
> >> >  1) "Creative X-Fi" does not have any Enum's. alsamixer does not show
> >> >  Enums's. amixer lists "penum" for ALL Simple mixer controls.
> >> >
> >> >  2) "HDA ATI SB" has no penum's, only 3 cenum's. alsamixer shows it
> >> >  correctly, but amixer disagrees and shows penum for NEARLY ALL Simple
> >> >  mixer controls (except for those with cpability "cenum").
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >  I found this as I received several bug reports for KMix with "absurd"
> >> >  amixer output. I could perceive from those bug report that the bug is
> >> >  affecting a lot (or all?) sound cards.
> >>
> >> Looks like a bug in alsa mixer abstraction, indeed.
> >> Will take a look at it later.
> >
> > I committed the fix to git tree now.  The fix patch is below.
> >
> >
> > Takashi
> >
> > ---
> > From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
> > Subject: [PATCH] mixer: Remove redundant CHECK_ENUM() from
> > snd_mixer_selem_is_enum*()
> >
> > The functions to check whether the element is an enum don't need the
> > extra check of the type.  It should return simply 0 or 1 without error.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
> > ---
> >  src/mixer/simple.c |    2 --
> >  1 file changed, 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/src/mixer/simple.c b/src/mixer/simple.c
> > index 8079fe7..ec22a9c 100644
> > --- a/src/mixer/simple.c
> > +++ b/src/mixer/simple.c
> > @@ -889,7 +889,6 @@ int snd_mixer_selem_is_enumerated(snd_mixer_elem_t
> > *elem)
> >  int snd_mixer_selem_is_enum_playback(snd_mixer_elem_t *elem)
> >  {
> >  	CHECK_BASIC(elem);
> > -	CHECK_ENUM(elem);
> >  	return sm_selem_ops(elem)->is(elem, SM_PLAY, SM_OPS_IS_ENUMERATED, 1);
> >  }
> >
> > @@ -901,7 +900,6 @@ int snd_mixer_selem_is_enum_playback(snd_mixer_elem_t
> > *elem)
> >  int snd_mixer_selem_is_enum_capture(snd_mixer_elem_t *elem)
> >  {
> >  	CHECK_BASIC(elem);
> > -	CHECK_ENUM(elem);
> >  	return sm_selem_ops(elem)->is(elem, SM_CAPT, SM_OPS_IS_ENUMERATED, 1);
> >  }
> >
> > --
> > 1.7.9.2
> >
> 
> The patch changed some penum to enum
> 
> (e.g. "Independent HP"  or "Channel Mode" )
> 
> 
> Simple mixer control 'Independent HP',0
>   Capabilities: enum
>   Items: 'OFF' 'ON'
>   Item0: 'ON'
> 

Yes, and it's the right fix.  The enum is not specific to playback,
at least, judging from the name string.


Takashi

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* Re: amixer shows capability "penum" on every Simple mixer control
  2012-03-14 13:43       ` Takashi Iwai
@ 2012-03-15  0:23         ` Raymond Yau
  2012-03-15  6:32           ` Takashi Iwai
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Raymond Yau @ 2012-03-15  0:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takashi Iwai; +Cc: Christian Esken (KDE), alsa-devel

2012/3/14, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>:
>>
>> The patch changed some penum to enum
>>
>> (e.g. "Independent HP"  or "Channel Mode" )
>>
>>
>> Simple mixer control 'Independent HP',0
>>   Capabilities: enum
>>   Items: 'OFF' 'ON'
>>   Item0: 'ON'
>>
>
> Yes, and it's the right fix.  The enum is not specific to playback,
> at least, judging from the name string.
>
>

on hda ad198x , "input source" are cenum

Simple mixer control 'Input Source',0
  Capabilities: cenum
  Items: 'Front Mic' 'Rear Mic' 'Line' 'CD' 'Mix'
  Item0: 'Front Mic'
Simple mixer control 'Input Source',1
  Capabilities: cenum
  Items: 'Front Mic' 'Rear Mic' 'Line' 'CD' 'Mix'
  Item0: 'Front Mic'
Simple mixer control 'Input Source',2
  Capabilities: cenum
  Items: 'Front Mic' 'Rear Mic' 'Line' 'CD' 'Mix'
  Item0: 'Line'

but those "Universal Jack" input source are enum

https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=5548



Simple mixer control 'Line Input Source',0
  Capabilities: enum
  Items: 'Mic2 Jack' 'Mic1 Jack' 'Line In Jack' 'Front Jack' 'Rear
Jack' 'Center/LFE Jack' 'Mute'
  Item0: 'Line In Jack'


Simple mixer control 'Mic Input Source',0
  Capabilities: enum
  Items: 'Mic2 Jack' 'Mic1 Jack' 'Line In Jack' 'Front Jack' 'Rear
Jack' 'Center/LFE Jack' 'Mute'
  Item0: 'Mic1 Jack'
Simple mixer control 'Mic Select',0
  Capabilities: enum
  Items: 'Mic1' 'Mic2'
  Item0: 'Mic1'


Do the user of 3 jack motherboard need to run a script to retask the
Universal Audio Jack for surround51 in Ubuntu 11.10 ?


Simple mixer control 'Front Jack',0
  Capabilities: enum
  Items: 'Input/Disabled' 'Front Output' 'Rear Output' 'Center/LFE
Output' 'Mixer Output'
  Item0: 'Mixer Output'

Simple mixer control 'Center/LFE Jack',0
  Capabilities: enum
  Items: 'Input/Disabled' 'Front Output' 'Rear Output' 'Center/LFE
Output' 'Mixer Output'
  Item0: 'Center/LFE Output'

Simple mixer control 'LineIn Jack',0
  Capabilities: enum
  Items: 'Input/Disabled' 'Front Output' 'Rear Output' 'Center/LFE
Output' 'Mixer Output'
  Item0: 'Input/Disabled'

Simple mixer control 'Mic1 Jack',0
  Capabilities: enum
  Items: 'Input/Disabled' 'Front Output' 'Rear Output' 'Center/LFE
Output' 'Mixer Output'
  Item0: 'Input/Disabled'


Simple mixer control 'Rear Jack',0
  Capabilities: enum
  Items: 'Input/Disabled' 'Front Output' 'Rear Output' 'Center/LFE
Output' 'Mixer Output'
  Item0: 'Rear Output'

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* Re: amixer shows capability "penum" on every Simple mixer control
  2012-03-15  0:23         ` Raymond Yau
@ 2012-03-15  6:32           ` Takashi Iwai
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2012-03-15  6:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Raymond Yau; +Cc: Christian Esken (KDE), alsa-devel

At Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:23:47 +0800,
Raymond Yau wrote:
> 
> 2012/3/14, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>:
> >>
> >> The patch changed some penum to enum
> >>
> >> (e.g. "Independent HP"  or "Channel Mode" )
> >>
> >>
> >> Simple mixer control 'Independent HP',0
> >>   Capabilities: enum
> >>   Items: 'OFF' 'ON'
> >>   Item0: 'ON'
> >>
> >
> > Yes, and it's the right fix.  The enum is not specific to playback,
> > at least, judging from the name string.
> >
> >
> 
> on hda ad198x , "input source" are cenum
> 
> Simple mixer control 'Input Source',0
>   Capabilities: cenum
>   Items: 'Front Mic' 'Rear Mic' 'Line' 'CD' 'Mix'
>   Item0: 'Front Mic'
> Simple mixer control 'Input Source',1
>   Capabilities: cenum
>   Items: 'Front Mic' 'Rear Mic' 'Line' 'CD' 'Mix'
>   Item0: 'Front Mic'
> Simple mixer control 'Input Source',2
>   Capabilities: cenum
>   Items: 'Front Mic' 'Rear Mic' 'Line' 'CD' 'Mix'
>   Item0: 'Line'
> 
> but those "Universal Jack" input source are enum
> 
> https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=5548
> 
> 
> 
> Simple mixer control 'Line Input Source',0
>   Capabilities: enum
>   Items: 'Mic2 Jack' 'Mic1 Jack' 'Line In Jack' 'Front Jack' 'Rear
> Jack' 'Center/LFE Jack' 'Mute'
>   Item0: 'Line In Jack'
> 
> 
> Simple mixer control 'Mic Input Source',0
>   Capabilities: enum
>   Items: 'Mic2 Jack' 'Mic1 Jack' 'Line In Jack' 'Front Jack' 'Rear
> Jack' 'Center/LFE Jack' 'Mute'
>   Item0: 'Mic1 Jack'
> Simple mixer control 'Mic Select',0
>   Capabilities: enum
>   Items: 'Mic1' 'Mic2'
>   Item0: 'Mic1'

These are really not for captures.
Thus it's correct to assign to the global enum.


Takashi

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* Re: amixer shows capability "penum" on every Simple mixer control
  2012-03-13 13:32   ` Takashi Iwai
  2012-03-14 12:35     ` Raymond Yau
@ 2012-03-16 20:18     ` Christian Esken (KDE)
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Christian Esken (KDE) @ 2012-03-16 20:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

Am Dienstag, den 13.03.2012, 14:32 +0100 schrieb Takashi Iwai:
> At Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:52:21 +0100,
> Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > 
> > At Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:09:35 +0100,
> > Christian Esken (KDE) wrote:
> > > 
> > >  Hello,
> > > 
> > >  when I run amixer it shows the capability "penum" on nearly every 
> > >  Simple mixer control.
> > >  I posted the bug report 
> > >  https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=5496 , but 
> > >  Raymond asked me to report it on this mailing list ("as it is related to 
> > >  this patch 6d511eefa05878abee9f8b9145697230de605200 Implements support 
> > >  for capture/playback enums.").
> > > 
> > >  I posted  details for the following two examples in 
> > >  https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=5496 :
> > > 
> > >  1) "Creative X-Fi" does not have any Enum's. alsamixer does not show 
> > >  Enums's. amixer lists "penum" for ALL Simple mixer controls.
> > > 
> > >  2) "HDA ATI SB" has no penum's, only 3 cenum's. alsamixer shows it 
> > >  correctly, but amixer disagrees and shows penum for NEARLY ALL Simple 
> > >  mixer controls (except for those with cpability "cenum").
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  I found this as I received several bug reports for KMix with "absurd" 
> > >  amixer output. I could perceive from those bug report that the bug is 
> > >  affecting a lot (or all?) sound cards.
> > 
> > Looks like a bug in alsa mixer abstraction, indeed.
> > Will take a look at it later.
> 
> I committed the fix to git tree now.  The fix patch is below.
> 

I compiled and installed the alsa-lib from git, and the existing old
executable (1.0.24.2 from openSUSE 12.1) now shows the correct values. I
also tested with amixer from git, and it also works for me.

Thanks for the quick fix.

   Christian

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