From: tim@krieglstein.org (Tim Sander)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v9 5/5] arm: smp: Handle ipi_cpu_backtrace() using FIQ (if available)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 10:10:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <13373554.4deCsZOMXS@dabox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5475FD02.3030501@linaro.org>
Hi Daniel, Russell
Am Mittwoch, 26. November 2014, 16:17:06 schrieb Daniel Thompson:
> On 26/11/14 13:12, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 01:46:52PM +0100, Tim Sander wrote:
> >> Hi Daniel
> >>
> >> Am Dienstag, 25. November 2014, 17:26:41 schrieb Daniel Thompson:
> >>> Previous changes have introduced both a replacement default FIQ handler
> >>> and an implementation of arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace for ARM but
> >>> these are currently independent of each other.
> >>>
> >>> This patch plumbs together these features making it possible, on
> >>> platforms
> >>> that support it, to trigger backtrace using FIQ.
> >>
> >> Does this ipi handler interfere in any way with set_fiq_handler?
> >>
> >> As far as i know there is only one FIQ handler vector so i guess there is
> >> a
> >> potential conflict. But i have not worked with IPI's so i might be
> >> completley wrong.
> >
> > First, the code in arch/arm/kernel/fiq.c should work with this new FIQ
> > code in that the new FIQ code is used as the "default" handler (as
> > opposed to the original handler which was a total no-op.)
> >
> > Secondly, use of arch/arm/kernel/fiq.c in a SMP system is really not a
> > good idea: the FIQ registers are private to each CPU in the system, and
> > there is no infrastructure to allow fiq.c to ensure that it loads the
> > right CPU with the register information for the provided handler.
Well given the races in the GIC v1. i have seen in the chips on my desk
initializing with for_each_possible_cpu(cpu) work_on_cpu(cpu,..) is rather
easy.
> > So, use of arch/arm/kernel/fiq.c and the IPI's use of FIQ /should/ be
> > mutually exclusive.
Yes but i digress on the assessment that this a decision between SMP and non-
SMP usage or the availbility of the GIC.
> Agree with the above. Just to add...
>
> I am currently working to get NMI features from x86 land running on top
> of the new default FIQ handler: arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace (with
> Russell's patch), perf, hard lockup detector, kgdb.
>
> However I don't think anything I'm doing makes it very much harder than
> it already is to use arch/arm/kernel/fiq.c . That said, other then
> setting the GIC up nicely, I am not doing anything to make it easier either.
>
> I'd like to end up somewhere where if you want the NMI features (and
> have a suitable device) you just use the default handler and it all just
> works. If you need *Fast* Interrupt reQuests, proper old school "I want
> to write an overclocked I2C slave in software" craziness and you can
> pass on the improved debug features then set_fiq_handler() is still
> there and still need extremely careful handling.
Well i am not against these features as they assumably improve the backtrace,
but it would be nice to have a config option which switches between
set_fiq_handler usage and the other conflicting usages of the fiq.
> The only thing I might have done to make your life worse is not provide
> the code to dynamically shunt all the debug and performance monitoring
> features back to group 1. All except the hard lockup detector will have
> logic to fall back statically. This means making it dynamic shouldn't be
> that hard. However since there is no code in the upstream kernel that
> would use the code I don't plan to go there myself.
I don't think this needs to by dynamic, but from a user perspective a config
option would be really nice.
Tim
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From: Tim Sander <tim@krieglstein.org>
To: Daniel Thompson <daniel.thompson@linaro.org>
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, patches@linaro.org,
linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>,
Daniel Drake <drake@endlessm.com>,
Dmitry Pervushin <dpervushin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v9 5/5] arm: smp: Handle ipi_cpu_backtrace() using FIQ (if available)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 10:10:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <13373554.4deCsZOMXS@dabox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5475FD02.3030501@linaro.org>
Hi Daniel, Russell
Am Mittwoch, 26. November 2014, 16:17:06 schrieb Daniel Thompson:
> On 26/11/14 13:12, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 01:46:52PM +0100, Tim Sander wrote:
> >> Hi Daniel
> >>
> >> Am Dienstag, 25. November 2014, 17:26:41 schrieb Daniel Thompson:
> >>> Previous changes have introduced both a replacement default FIQ handler
> >>> and an implementation of arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace for ARM but
> >>> these are currently independent of each other.
> >>>
> >>> This patch plumbs together these features making it possible, on
> >>> platforms
> >>> that support it, to trigger backtrace using FIQ.
> >>
> >> Does this ipi handler interfere in any way with set_fiq_handler?
> >>
> >> As far as i know there is only one FIQ handler vector so i guess there is
> >> a
> >> potential conflict. But i have not worked with IPI's so i might be
> >> completley wrong.
> >
> > First, the code in arch/arm/kernel/fiq.c should work with this new FIQ
> > code in that the new FIQ code is used as the "default" handler (as
> > opposed to the original handler which was a total no-op.)
> >
> > Secondly, use of arch/arm/kernel/fiq.c in a SMP system is really not a
> > good idea: the FIQ registers are private to each CPU in the system, and
> > there is no infrastructure to allow fiq.c to ensure that it loads the
> > right CPU with the register information for the provided handler.
Well given the races in the GIC v1. i have seen in the chips on my desk
initializing with for_each_possible_cpu(cpu) work_on_cpu(cpu,..) is rather
easy.
> > So, use of arch/arm/kernel/fiq.c and the IPI's use of FIQ /should/ be
> > mutually exclusive.
Yes but i digress on the assessment that this a decision between SMP and non-
SMP usage or the availbility of the GIC.
> Agree with the above. Just to add...
>
> I am currently working to get NMI features from x86 land running on top
> of the new default FIQ handler: arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace (with
> Russell's patch), perf, hard lockup detector, kgdb.
>
> However I don't think anything I'm doing makes it very much harder than
> it already is to use arch/arm/kernel/fiq.c . That said, other then
> setting the GIC up nicely, I am not doing anything to make it easier either.
>
> I'd like to end up somewhere where if you want the NMI features (and
> have a suitable device) you just use the default handler and it all just
> works. If you need *Fast* Interrupt reQuests, proper old school "I want
> to write an overclocked I2C slave in software" craziness and you can
> pass on the improved debug features then set_fiq_handler() is still
> there and still need extremely careful handling.
Well i am not against these features as they assumably improve the backtrace,
but it would be nice to have a config option which switches between
set_fiq_handler usage and the other conflicting usages of the fiq.
> The only thing I might have done to make your life worse is not provide
> the code to dynamically shunt all the debug and performance monitoring
> features back to group 1. All except the hard lockup detector will have
> logic to fall back statically. This means making it dynamic shouldn't be
> that hard. However since there is no code in the upstream kernel that
> would use the code I don't plan to go there myself.
I don't think this needs to by dynamic, but from a user perspective a config
option would be really nice.
Tim
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2014-11-05 10:27 [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v7 0/4] arm: Implement arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace Daniel Thompson
2014-11-05 10:27 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-05 10:27 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v7 1/4] irqchip: gic: Make gic_raise_softirq() FIQ-safe Daniel Thompson
2014-11-05 10:27 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-05 10:27 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v7 2/4] irqchip: gic: Introduce plumbing for IPI FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-11-05 10:27 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-05 10:27 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v7 3/4] ARM: add basic support for on-demand backtrace of other CPUs Daniel Thompson
2014-11-05 10:27 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-05 10:27 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v7 4/4] arm: smp: Handle ipi_cpu_backtrace() using FIQ (if available) Daniel Thompson
2014-11-05 10:27 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-14 12:35 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v8 0/4] arm: Implement arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace Daniel Thompson
2014-11-14 12:35 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-14 12:35 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v8 1/4] irqchip: gic: Make gic_raise_softirq() FIQ-safe Daniel Thompson
2014-11-14 12:35 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-24 18:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-24 18:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-24 18:40 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-24 18:40 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-24 18:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-24 18:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-24 20:36 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-24 20:36 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-24 20:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-24 20:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-24 21:09 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-24 21:09 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-24 20:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-24 20:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-24 21:01 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-24 21:01 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-24 21:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-24 21:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-14 12:35 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v8 2/4] irqchip: gic: Introduce plumbing for IPI FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-11-14 12:35 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-14 12:35 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v8 3/4] ARM: add basic support for on-demand backtrace of other CPUs Daniel Thompson
2014-11-14 12:35 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-14 12:35 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v8 4/4] arm: smp: Handle ipi_cpu_backtrace() using FIQ (if available) Daniel Thompson
2014-11-14 12:35 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-24 17:09 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v8 0/4] arm: Implement arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace Daniel Thompson
2014-11-24 17:09 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-25 17:26 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v9 0/5] " Daniel Thompson
2014-11-25 17:26 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-25 17:26 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v9 1/5] irqchip: gic: Finer grain locking for gic_raise_softirq Daniel Thompson
2014-11-25 17:26 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-25 17:40 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-11-25 17:40 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-11-25 20:17 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-11-25 20:17 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-11-25 21:10 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-25 21:10 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 1:27 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-11-26 1:27 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-11-26 11:05 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 11:05 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-25 17:26 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v9 2/5] irqchip: gic: Make gic_raise_softirq() FIQ-safe Daniel Thompson
2014-11-25 17:26 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-25 17:26 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v9 3/5] irqchip: gic: Introduce plumbing for IPI FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-11-25 17:26 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 15:09 ` Tim Sander
2014-11-26 15:09 ` Tim Sander
2014-11-26 15:48 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 15:48 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 16:58 ` Tim Sander
2014-11-26 16:58 ` Tim Sander
2014-11-25 17:26 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v9 4/5] ARM: add basic support for on-demand backtrace of other CPUs Daniel Thompson
2014-11-25 17:26 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-25 17:26 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc3 v9 5/5] arm: smp: Handle ipi_cpu_backtrace() using FIQ (if available) Daniel Thompson
2014-11-25 17:26 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 12:46 ` Tim Sander
2014-11-26 12:46 ` Tim Sander
2014-11-26 13:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-11-26 13:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-11-26 16:17 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 16:17 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-28 9:10 ` Tim Sander [this message]
2014-11-28 9:10 ` Tim Sander
2014-11-28 10:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-11-28 10:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-12-01 10:32 ` Tim Sander
2014-12-01 10:32 ` Tim Sander
2014-12-01 10:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-12-01 10:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-12-01 13:54 ` Tim Sander
2014-12-01 13:54 ` Tim Sander
2014-12-01 14:13 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-12-01 14:13 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-12-03 13:41 ` Tim Sander
2014-12-03 13:41 ` Tim Sander
2014-12-03 14:53 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-12-03 14:53 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-12-01 15:02 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-12-01 15:02 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-12-05 16:00 ` Tim Sander
2014-12-05 16:00 ` Tim Sander
2014-11-26 16:23 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v10 0/6] arm: Implement arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 16:23 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 16:23 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v10 1/6] irqchip: gic: Finer grain locking for gic_raise_softirq Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 16:23 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 16:23 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v10 2/6] irqchip: gic: Optimize locking in gic_raise_softirq Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 16:23 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 16:23 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v10 3/6] irqchip: gic: Make gic_raise_softirq FIQ-safe Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 16:23 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 16:23 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v10 4/6] irqchip: gic: Introduce plumbing for IPI FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 16:23 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 17:42 ` Jason Cooper
2014-11-26 17:42 ` Jason Cooper
2014-11-27 13:39 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 13:39 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 18:06 ` Jason Cooper
2014-11-27 18:06 ` Jason Cooper
2014-11-27 19:42 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 19:42 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 20:16 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 20:16 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 16:23 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v10 5/6] ARM: add basic support for on-demand backtrace of other CPUs Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 16:23 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 16:23 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v10 6/6] arm: smp: Handle ipi_cpu_backtrace() using FIQ (if available) Daniel Thompson
2014-11-26 16:23 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 20:10 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v11 0/6] arm: Implement arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 20:10 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 20:10 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v11 1/6] irqchip: gic: Finer grain locking for gic_raise_softirq Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 20:10 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 20:10 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v11 2/6] irqchip: gic: Optimize locking in gic_raise_softirq Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 20:10 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 21:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-27 21:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-28 10:14 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-28 10:14 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 20:10 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v11 3/6] irqchip: gic: Make gic_raise_softirq FIQ-safe Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 20:10 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 21:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-27 21:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-28 9:21 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-28 9:21 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 20:10 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v11 4/6] irqchip: gic: Introduce plumbing for IPI FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 20:10 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 20:10 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v11 5/6] ARM: add basic support for on-demand backtrace of other CPUs Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 20:10 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 20:10 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v11 6/6] arm: smp: Handle ipi_cpu_backtrace() using FIQ (if available) Daniel Thompson
2014-11-27 20:10 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-28 16:16 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v12 0/5] arm: Implement arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace Daniel Thompson
2014-11-28 16:16 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-28 16:16 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v12 1/5] irqchip: gic: Optimize locking in gic_raise_softirq Daniel Thompson
2014-11-28 16:16 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-28 16:16 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v12 2/5] irqchip: gic: Make gic_raise_softirq FIQ-safe Daniel Thompson
2014-11-28 16:16 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-28 16:16 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v12 3/5] irqchip: gic: Introduce plumbing for IPI FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-11-28 16:16 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-28 16:16 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v12 4/5] ARM: add basic support for on-demand backtrace of other CPUs Daniel Thompson
2014-11-28 16:16 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-28 16:16 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v12 5/5] arm: smp: Handle ipi_cpu_backtrace() using FIQ (if available) Daniel Thompson
2014-11-28 16:16 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-12-08 16:00 ` [PATCH 3.18-rc4 v12 0/5] arm: Implement arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace Daniel Thompson
2014-12-08 16:00 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-05 14:54 ` [PATCH 3.19-rc2 v13 " Daniel Thompson
2015-01-05 14:54 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-05 14:54 ` [PATCH 3.19-rc2 v13 1/5] irqchip: gic: Optimize locking in gic_raise_softirq Daniel Thompson
2015-01-05 14:54 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-05 14:54 ` [PATCH 3.19-rc2 v13 2/5] irqchip: gic: Make gic_raise_softirq FIQ-safe Daniel Thompson
2015-01-05 14:54 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-05 14:54 ` [PATCH 3.19-rc2 v13 3/5] irqchip: gic: Introduce plumbing for IPI FIQ Daniel Thompson
2015-01-05 14:54 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-05 14:54 ` [PATCH 3.19-rc2 v13 4/5] ARM: Add support for on-demand backtrace of other CPUs Daniel Thompson
2015-01-05 14:54 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-05 15:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-01-05 15:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-01-05 17:07 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-05 17:07 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-09 16:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-09 16:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-11 23:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-01-11 23:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-01-13 10:36 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-13 10:36 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-13 12:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-01-13 12:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-01-05 14:54 ` [PATCH 3.19-rc2 v13 5/5] ARM: Fix on-demand backtrace triggered by IRQ Daniel Thompson
2015-01-05 14:54 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-13 10:26 ` [PATCH 3.19-rc2 v14 0/7] arm: Implement arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace Daniel Thompson
2015-01-13 10:26 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-13 10:26 ` [PATCH 3.19-rc2 v14 1/7] irqchip: gic: Optimize locking in gic_raise_softirq Daniel Thompson
2015-01-13 10:26 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-13 10:26 ` [PATCH 3.19-rc2 v14 2/7] irqchip: gic: Make gic_raise_softirq FIQ-safe Daniel Thompson
2015-01-13 10:26 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-13 10:26 ` [PATCH 3.19-rc2 v14 3/7] irqchip: gic: Introduce plumbing for IPI FIQ Daniel Thompson
2015-01-13 10:26 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-13 10:26 ` [PATCH 3.19-rc2 v14 4/7] printk: Simple implementation for NMI backtracing Daniel Thompson
2015-01-13 10:26 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-13 10:26 ` [PATCH 3.19-rc2 v14 5/7] x86/nmi: Use common printk functions Daniel Thompson
2015-01-13 10:26 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-13 10:26 ` [PATCH 3.19-rc2 v14 6/7] ARM: Add support for on-demand backtrace of other CPUs Daniel Thompson
2015-01-13 10:26 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-13 10:26 ` [PATCH 3.19-rc2 v14 7/7] ARM: Fix on-demand backtrace triggered by IRQ Daniel Thompson
2015-01-13 10:26 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-20 10:25 ` [PATCH 3.19-rc2 v14 0/7] arm: Implement arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace Daniel Thompson
2015-01-20 10:25 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-20 20:53 ` Stephen Boyd
2015-01-20 20:53 ` Stephen Boyd
2015-01-21 10:47 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-21 10:47 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-21 13:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-01-21 13:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-01-21 13:48 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-21 13:48 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-22 11:21 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-01-22 11:21 ` Daniel Thompson
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