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From: Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@hp.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Disable Bus Master on PCI device shutdown
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:21:00 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1339078860.25761.767.camel@lyra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87obowxm5s.fsf@xmission.com>

On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 12:42 -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Absent anyone even knowing if there are devices that exist that can not
> tolerate their bus master bit being flipped when DMA is not ongoing I
> think the current state of the code is good.  When we find the broken
> hardware that can not tolerate a standard PCI bit being used in a
> standard way we can add a flag in the core to avoid doing that.
> 
> pci_device_shutdown calls drv->shutdown before calling
> pci_device_disable.  Which means that only devices that have trouble
> with this bit being flipped while DMA is ongoing and don't bother
> to stop their own DMA will have a problem.
> 
> As for shifting problems I do think we have shifted the problem in a
> very positive way.  Now instead of having a random failure at a random
> location caused by DMA happing at a random moment for no expected reason
> we have failures happening when we disable or enable a device, which
> should be much more debugable.

That is a very good point. Failure at a predictable point is much better
than random failures with the root cause being elsewhere from the point
of failure in time and code. This at least gives us a good shot at being
able to debug buggy hardware and drivers.

-- 
====================================================================
Khalid Aziz                                         Unix Systems Lab
(970)898-9214                                        Hewlett-Packard
khalid.aziz@hp.com                                  Fort Collins, CO


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-06-07 14:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-27 19:00 [PATCH] Disable Bus Master on PCI device shutdown Khalid Aziz
2012-05-03 23:52 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-05-04 17:15   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-06-06 13:50 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-06-06 16:17   ` Khalid Aziz
2012-06-06 16:27     ` Matthew Garrett
2012-06-06 17:32       ` Khalid Aziz
2012-06-06 17:42         ` Matthew Garrett
2012-06-06 18:07           ` Khalid Aziz
2012-06-06 19:42             ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-06-06 20:09               ` Matthew Garrett
2012-06-07 17:43                 ` Khalid Aziz
2012-06-07 14:21               ` Khalid Aziz [this message]
2012-06-06 20:16             ` Myron Stowe
2012-06-06 23:03               ` Khalid Aziz
2012-06-06 23:18                 ` Myron Stowe
2012-06-06 20:50   ` Alan Cox
2012-06-07 17:07     ` Andi Kleen
2012-06-07 17:13       ` Alan Cox
2012-06-07 17:36       ` Khalid Aziz
2012-06-07 17:08   ` Andi Kleen

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