From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: Tabi Timur-B04825 <B04825@freescale.com>,
Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
"linux-next@vger.kernel.org" <linux-next@vger.kernel.org>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: linux-next: manual merge of the kvm-ppc tree with the powerpc-merge tree
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:33:31 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1349973211.6903.3@snotra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CDB8B53D-EEC2-41A4-9BEA-66783409EE66@suse.de> (from agraf@suse.de on Thu Oct 11 10:56:51 2012)
On 10/11/2012 10:56:51 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>
> On 11.10.2012, at 17:50, Scott Wood wrote:
>
> > On 10/11/2012 08:04:58 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >> On 11.10.2012, at 05:32, Tabi Timur-B04825 wrote:
> >> > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Stephen Rothwell
> <sfr@canb.auug.org.au> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Commit 549d62d889b4 ("KVM: PPC: use definitions in epapr header
> >> >> for hcalls") from the kvm-ppc tree added an include of
> asm/epapr_hcall.h
> >> >> to the user visible part of asm/kvm_para.h so asm/epapr_hcall.h
> became a
> >> >> user visible header file.
> >> >
> >> > Any real user-space code that tries to call any of the functions
> in
> >> > epapr_hcall.h will cause an exception.
> >
> > Actually it'll cause a linker error, as of the "Don't use hardcoded
> opcode for ePAPR hcall invocation" patch.
> >
> >> > Claiming that kernel header files that KVM needs are suddenly
> >> > user-space header files doesn't make much sense to me, but I
> guess
> >> > it's not my decision.
> >> This is about kvm_host.h, which is the part that is exported to
> user space. It usually contains constants and structs that are
> required for the API.
> >
> > s/kvm_host/kvm_para/
> >
> > I'm not sure anything in kvm_para.h or epapr_hcalls.h would be of
> use to userspace, but it would be of use to the guest OS, so it's
> still not kernel-internal.
> >
> > The variable externs should be #ifdef __KERNEL__ as David points
> out. The asm stuff could still be useful in a guest OS if the guest
> provides epapr_hypercall_start.
>
> I don't think we should worry about guest kernel code potentially
> having use for this. Let's make the user space headers be great for
> user space usage, not for guest code usage :).
Well, that asm stuff started out as a guest header (from Freescale's
Topaz hypervisor), not a Linux header. :-)
-Scott
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From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
Tabi Timur-B04825 <B04825@freescale.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
"linux-next@vger.kernel.org" <linux-next@vger.kernel.org>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: linux-next: manual merge of the kvm-ppc tree with the powerpc-merge tree
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:33:31 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1349973211.6903.3@snotra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CDB8B53D-EEC2-41A4-9BEA-66783409EE66@suse.de> (from agraf@suse.de on Thu Oct 11 10:56:51 2012)
On 10/11/2012 10:56:51 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>=20
> On 11.10.2012, at 17:50, Scott Wood wrote:
>=20
> > On 10/11/2012 08:04:58 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >> On 11.10.2012, at 05:32, Tabi Timur-B04825 wrote:
> >> > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Stephen Rothwell =20
> <sfr@canb.auug.org.au> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Commit 549d62d889b4 ("KVM: PPC: use definitions in epapr header
> >> >> for hcalls") from the kvm-ppc tree added an include of =20
> asm/epapr_hcall.h
> >> >> to the user visible part of asm/kvm_para.h so asm/epapr_hcall.h =20
> became a
> >> >> user visible header file.
> >> >
> >> > Any real user-space code that tries to call any of the functions =20
> in
> >> > epapr_hcall.h will cause an exception.
> >
> > Actually it'll cause a linker error, as of the "Don't use hardcoded =20
> opcode for ePAPR hcall invocation" patch.
> >
> >> > Claiming that kernel header files that KVM needs are suddenly
> >> > user-space header files doesn't make much sense to me, but I =20
> guess
> >> > it's not my decision.
> >> This is about kvm_host.h, which is the part that is exported to =20
> user space. It usually contains constants and structs that are =20
> required for the API.
> >
> > s/kvm_host/kvm_para/
> >
> > I'm not sure anything in kvm_para.h or epapr_hcalls.h would be of =20
> use to userspace, but it would be of use to the guest OS, so it's =20
> still not kernel-internal.
> >
> > The variable externs should be #ifdef __KERNEL__ as David points =20
> out. The asm stuff could still be useful in a guest OS if the guest =20
> provides epapr_hypercall_start.
>=20
> I don't think we should worry about guest kernel code potentially =20
> having use for this. Let's make the user space headers be great for =20
> user space usage, not for guest code usage :).
Well, that asm stuff started out as a guest header (from Freescale's =20
Topaz hypervisor), not a Linux header. :-)
-Scott=
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-11 16:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-11 1:18 linux-next: manual merge of the kvm-ppc tree with the powerpc-merge tree Stephen Rothwell
2012-10-11 1:18 ` Stephen Rothwell
2012-10-11 1:18 ` Stephen Rothwell
2012-10-11 1:47 ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-10-11 1:47 ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-10-11 2:47 ` Stephen Rothwell
2012-10-11 2:47 ` Stephen Rothwell
2012-10-11 3:32 ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-10-11 3:32 ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-10-11 3:32 ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-10-11 13:04 ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-11 13:04 ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-11 15:50 ` Scott Wood
2012-10-11 15:50 ` Scott Wood
2012-10-11 15:56 ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-11 15:56 ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-11 16:33 ` Scott Wood [this message]
2012-10-11 16:33 ` Scott Wood
2012-10-11 15:55 ` Timur Tabi
2012-10-11 15:55 ` Timur Tabi
2012-10-11 16:37 ` Scott Wood
2012-10-11 16:37 ` Scott Wood
2012-10-11 17:24 ` Timur Tabi
2012-10-11 17:24 ` Timur Tabi
2012-10-11 17:28 ` Scott Wood
2012-10-11 17:28 ` Scott Wood
2012-10-11 17:30 ` Timur Tabi
2012-10-11 17:30 ` Timur Tabi
2012-10-11 9:28 ` David Howells
2012-10-11 9:28 ` David Howells
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-10-11 1:05 Stephen Rothwell
2012-10-11 1:05 ` Stephen Rothwell
2012-10-11 1:05 ` Stephen Rothwell
2012-10-11 9:27 ` David Howells
2012-10-11 9:27 ` David Howells
2012-10-11 13:08 ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-11 13:08 ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-11 16:05 ` David Howells
2012-10-11 16:05 ` David Howells
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