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From: Simon Jeons <simon.jeons@gmail.com>
To: Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: protect against concurrent vma expansion
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 19:18:31 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1357262311.5105.6.camel@kernel.cn.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANN689HQjbXEpWhv5KuaOt2NBEokiOguCXnsum2Bd994zkw6tA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 16:50 -0800, Michel Lespinasse wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Simon Jeons <simon.jeons@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 19:01 -0800, Michel Lespinasse wrote:
> >> Hi Simon,
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Simon Jeons <simon.jeons@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > One question.
> >> >
> >> > I found that mainly callsite of expand_stack() is #PF, but it holds
> >> > mmap_sem each time before call expand_stack(), how can hold a *shared*
> >> > mmap_sem happen?
> >>
> >> the #PF handler calls down_read(&mm->mmap_sem) before calling expand_stack.
> >>
> >> I think I'm just confusing you with my terminology; shared lock ==
> >> read lock == several readers might hold it at once (I'd say they share
> >> it)
> >
> > Sorry for my late response.
> >
> > Since expand_stack() will modify vma, then why hold a read lock here?
> 
> Well, it'd be much nicer if we had a write lock, I think. But, we
> didn't know when taking the lock that we'd end up having to expand
> stacks.
> 
> What happens is that page faults don't generally modify vmas, so they
> get a read lock (just to know what vma the fault is happening in) and
> then fault in the page.
> 

Thanks for your quick explanation. 

> expand_stack() is the one exception to that - after getting the read
> lock as usual, we notice that the fault is not in any vma right now,
> but it's close enough to an expandable vma.

If this senario only occur for userspace stack?

> 


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From: Simon Jeons <simon.jeons@gmail.com>
To: Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: protect against concurrent vma expansion
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 19:18:31 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1357262311.5105.6.camel@kernel.cn.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANN689HQjbXEpWhv5KuaOt2NBEokiOguCXnsum2Bd994zkw6tA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 16:50 -0800, Michel Lespinasse wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Simon Jeons <simon.jeons@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 19:01 -0800, Michel Lespinasse wrote:
> >> Hi Simon,
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Simon Jeons <simon.jeons@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > One question.
> >> >
> >> > I found that mainly callsite of expand_stack() is #PF, but it holds
> >> > mmap_sem each time before call expand_stack(), how can hold a *shared*
> >> > mmap_sem happen?
> >>
> >> the #PF handler calls down_read(&mm->mmap_sem) before calling expand_stack.
> >>
> >> I think I'm just confusing you with my terminology; shared lock ==
> >> read lock == several readers might hold it at once (I'd say they share
> >> it)
> >
> > Sorry for my late response.
> >
> > Since expand_stack() will modify vma, then why hold a read lock here?
> 
> Well, it'd be much nicer if we had a write lock, I think. But, we
> didn't know when taking the lock that we'd end up having to expand
> stacks.
> 
> What happens is that page faults don't generally modify vmas, so they
> get a read lock (just to know what vma the fault is happening in) and
> then fault in the page.
> 

Thanks for your quick explanation. 

> expand_stack() is the one exception to that - after getting the read
> lock as usual, we notice that the fault is not in any vma right now,
> but it's close enough to an expandable vma.

If this senario only occur for userspace stack?

> 



  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-04  1:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-01  6:56 [PATCH] mm: protect against concurrent vma expansion Michel Lespinasse
2012-12-01  6:56 ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-12-03 23:01 ` Andrew Morton
2012-12-03 23:01   ` Andrew Morton
2012-12-04  0:35   ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-12-04  0:35     ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-12-04  0:43     ` Andrew Morton
2012-12-04  0:43       ` Andrew Morton
2012-12-04 14:48       ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-12-04 14:48         ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-12-20  1:56         ` Simon Jeons
2012-12-20  1:56           ` Simon Jeons
2012-12-20  3:01           ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-12-20  3:01             ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-01-04  0:40             ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-04  0:40               ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-04  0:50               ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-01-04  0:50                 ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-01-04  1:18                 ` Simon Jeons [this message]
2013-01-04  1:18                   ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-04  2:49               ` Al Viro
2013-01-04  2:49                 ` Al Viro

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