about serial console problem

about serial console problem

[Barry Wu]

Hi, all,

I am porting linux 2.4.3 to our mipsel evaluation
board. Now I meet a problem. Because I use edown
to download the linux kernel to evaluation board.
I update the serial baud rate to 115200.
I use serial 0 as our console, and I can use
printk to print debug messages on serial port.
But after kernel call /sbin/init, I can not
see "INIT ...  ..." messages on serial port.
I suppose perhaps I make some mistakes. But when
I use 2.2.12 kernel, it ok.
If someone knows, please help me. Thanks!

Barry

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Re: about serial console problem

[Keith Owens]

On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:51:25 -0700 (PDT), 
Barry Wu <wqb123@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I am porting linux 2.4.3 to our mipsel evaluation
>board. Now I meet a problem. Because I use edown
>to download the linux kernel to evaluation board.
>I update the serial baud rate to 115200.
>I use serial 0 as our console, and I can use
>printk to print debug messages on serial port.
>But after kernel call /sbin/init, I can not
>see "INIT ...  ..." messages on serial port.

Probably you did not code the console boot parameters correctly.  In
LILO, append="console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200".  printk is written to
all consoles, init messages are only written to the last console
specified.

Re: about serial console problem

[Marc Karasek]

This sounds like a problem I ran into on another processor/platform.
What are you using for a ramdisk?  Is it busybox?  There was a bug in
0.51 busybox that would not let it accept input from a console on a
serial port.  It had to do with the init for the serial port.  You can
check the patch file below to see the problem that was in busybox...

--- init.c.orig Sat Apr 21 17:46:57 2001
+++ init.c      Sat Apr 21 17:46:31 2001
@@ -276,7 +276,7 @@

        /* Make it be sane */
        tty.c_cflag &= CBAUD|CBAUDEX|CSIZE|CSTOPB|PARENB|PARODD;
-       tty.c_cflag |= HUPCL|CLOCAL;
+       tty.c_cflag |= CREAD|HUPCL|CLOCAL;

        /* input modes */
        tty.c_iflag = ICRNL | IXON | IXOFF;

On 22 Jul 2001 23:51:25 -0700, Barry Wu wrote:
> 
> Hi, all,
> 
> I am porting linux 2.4.3 to our mipsel evaluation
> board. Now I meet a problem. Because I use edown
> to download the linux kernel to evaluation board.
> I update the serial baud rate to 115200.
> I use serial 0 as our console, and I can use
> printk to print debug messages on serial port.
> But after kernel call /sbin/init, I can not
> see "INIT ...  ..." messages on serial port.
> I suppose perhaps I make some mistakes. But when
> I use 2.2.12 kernel, it ok.
> If someone knows, please help me. Thanks!
> 
> Barry
> 
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Re: about serial console problem

[Dave Airlie]

Cool, this patch fixed a problem we were seeing with busybox on the
Linux/VAX project, that I hadn't time to look at...

thanks

Dave.


On 23 Jul 2001, Marc Karasek wrote:

> This sounds like a problem I ran into on another processor/platform.
> What are you using for a ramdisk?  Is it busybox?  There was a bug in
> 0.51 busybox that would not let it accept input from a console on a
> serial port.  It had to do with the init for the serial port.  You can
> check the patch file below to see the problem that was in busybox...
>
> --- init.c.orig Sat Apr 21 17:46:57 2001
> +++ init.c      Sat Apr 21 17:46:31 2001
> @@ -276,7 +276,7 @@
>
>         /* Make it be sane */
>         tty.c_cflag &= CBAUD|CBAUDEX|CSIZE|CSTOPB|PARENB|PARODD;
> -       tty.c_cflag |= HUPCL|CLOCAL;
> +       tty.c_cflag |= CREAD|HUPCL|CLOCAL;
>
>         /* input modes */
>         tty.c_iflag = ICRNL | IXON | IXOFF;
>
> On 22 Jul 2001 23:51:25 -0700, Barry Wu wrote:
> >
> > Hi, all,
> >
> > I am porting linux 2.4.3 to our mipsel evaluation
> > board. Now I meet a problem. Because I use edown
> > to download the linux kernel to evaluation board.
> > I update the serial baud rate to 115200.
> > I use serial 0 as our console, and I can use
> > printk to print debug messages on serial port.
> > But after kernel call /sbin/init, I can not
> > see "INIT ...  ..." messages on serial port.
> > I suppose perhaps I make some mistakes. But when
> > I use 2.2.12 kernel, it ok.
> > If someone knows, please help me. Thanks!
> >
> > Barry
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger
> > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
> --
> /*************************
> Marc Karasek
> Sr. Firmware Engineer
> iVivity Inc.
> marc_karasek@ivivity.com
> (770) 986-8925
> (770) 986-8926 Fax
> *************************/
>
>

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Re: about serial console problem

[Dave Airlie]

Cool, this patch fixed a problem we were seeing with busybox on the
Linux/VAX project, that I hadn't time to look at...

thanks

Dave.


On 23 Jul 2001, Marc Karasek wrote:

> This sounds like a problem I ran into on another processor/platform.
> What are you using for a ramdisk?  Is it busybox?  There was a bug in
> 0.51 busybox that would not let it accept input from a console on a
> serial port.  It had to do with the init for the serial port.  You can
> check the patch file below to see the problem that was in busybox...
>
> --- init.c.orig Sat Apr 21 17:46:57 2001
> +++ init.c      Sat Apr 21 17:46:31 2001
> @@ -276,7 +276,7 @@
>
>         /* Make it be sane */
>         tty.c_cflag &= CBAUD|CBAUDEX|CSIZE|CSTOPB|PARENB|PARODD;
> -       tty.c_cflag |= HUPCL|CLOCAL;
> +       tty.c_cflag |= CREAD|HUPCL|CLOCAL;
>
>         /* input modes */
>         tty.c_iflag = ICRNL | IXON | IXOFF;
>
> On 22 Jul 2001 23:51:25 -0700, Barry Wu wrote:
> >
> > Hi, all,
> >
> > I am porting linux 2.4.3 to our mipsel evaluation
> > board. Now I meet a problem. Because I use edown
> > to download the linux kernel to evaluation board.
> > I update the serial baud rate to 115200.
> > I use serial 0 as our console, and I can use
> > printk to print debug messages on serial port.
> > But after kernel call /sbin/init, I can not
> > see "INIT ...  ..." messages on serial port.
> > I suppose perhaps I make some mistakes. But when
> > I use 2.2.12 kernel, it ok.
> > If someone knows, please help me. Thanks!
> >
> > Barry
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger
> > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
> --
> /*************************
> Marc Karasek
> Sr. Firmware Engineer
> iVivity Inc.
> marc_karasek@ivivity.com
> (770) 986-8925
> (770) 986-8926 Fax
> *************************/
>
>

-- 
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http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / airlied@skynet.ie
pam_smb / Linux DecStation / Linux VAX / ILUG person

about serial console problem

[Barry Wu]

Hi, all,

I am porting linux 2.4.3 to our mipsel evaluation
board. Now I meet a problem. Because I use edown
to download the linux kernel to evaluation board.
I update the serial baud rate to 115200.
I use serial 0 as our console, and I can use
printk to print debug messages on serial port.
But after kernel call /sbin/init, I can not
see "INIT ...  ..." messages on serial port.
I suppose perhaps I make some mistakes. But when
I use 2.2.12 kernel, it ok.
If someone knows, please help me. Thanks!

Barry

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Re: about serial console problem

[Eric W. Biederman]

Barry Wu <wqb123@yahoo.com> writes:

> Hi, all,
> 
> I am porting linux 2.4.3 to our mipsel evaluation
> board. Now I meet a problem. Because I use edown
> to download the linux kernel to evaluation board.
> I update the serial baud rate to 115200.
> I use serial 0 as our console, and I can use
> printk to print debug messages on serial port.
> But after kernel call /sbin/init, I can not
> see "INIT ...  ..." messages on serial port.
> I suppose perhaps I make some mistakes. But when
> I use 2.2.12 kernel, it ok.
> If someone knows, please help me. Thanks!

It's a bug in init.  INIT clears the CREAD flag which means all reads
to the console will be dropped.  Why it /sbin/init works before 2.4.3
is a mystery.

Eric

Re: about serial console problem

[Robert J.Dunlop]

Hi,

On Tue, Jul 24,  Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Barry Wu <wqb123@yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> > I am porting linux 2.4.3 to our mipsel evaluation
> > board. Now I meet a problem. Because I use edown
> > to download the linux kernel to evaluation board.
> > I update the serial baud rate to 115200.
> > I use serial 0 as our console, and I can use
> > printk to print debug messages on serial port.
> > But after kernel call /sbin/init, I can not
> > see "INIT ...  ..." messages on serial port.
> > I suppose perhaps I make some mistakes. But when
> > I use 2.2.12 kernel, it ok.
> > If someone knows, please help me. Thanks!
> 
> It's a bug in init.  INIT clears the CREAD flag which means all reads
> to the console will be dropped.  Why it /sbin/init works before 2.4.3
> is a mystery.

Perhaps because most of the serial drivers didn't implement CREAD (or
rather !CREAD) until then. Actually more and more have been implementing
it as we go through 2.4.x, depends when your particular driver got caught.

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Re: about serial console problem

[Eric W. Biederman]

"Robert J.Dunlop" <rjd@xyzzy.clara.co.uk> writes:

> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Jul 24,  Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > Barry Wu <wqb123@yahoo.com> writes:
> > 
> > > I am porting linux 2.4.3 to our mipsel evaluation
> > > board. Now I meet a problem. Because I use edown
> > > to download the linux kernel to evaluation board.
> > > I update the serial baud rate to 115200.
> > > I use serial 0 as our console, and I can use
> > > printk to print debug messages on serial port.
> > > But after kernel call /sbin/init, I can not
> > > see "INIT ...  ..." messages on serial port.
> > > I suppose perhaps I make some mistakes. But when
> > > I use 2.2.12 kernel, it ok.
> > > If someone knows, please help me. Thanks!
> > 
> > It's a bug in init.  INIT clears the CREAD flag which means all reads
> > to the console will be dropped.  Why it /sbin/init works before 2.4.3
> > is a mystery.
> 
> Perhaps because most of the serial drivers didn't implement CREAD (or
> rather !CREAD) until then. 

Hmm.  When I looked it appeared CREAD should have worked in 2.4.2 but I do
know /sbin/init didn't have a problem with that one.  

> Actually more and more have been implementing
> it as we go through 2.4.x, depends when your particular driver got caught.

Do you know the history on how/why ~CREAD support started showing in
in the linux kernels.  I'd like to understand what is going on.

Eric

Re: about serial console problem

[Robert J.Dunlop]

On Wed, Jul 25,  Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> "Robert J.Dunlop" <rjd@xyzzy.clara.co.uk> writes:
> > Actually more and more have been implementing
> > it as we go through 2.4.x, depends when your particular driver got caught.
> 
> Do you know the history on how/why ~CREAD support started showing in
> in the linux kernels.  I'd like to understand what is going on.

Sorry! I've red herringed you here. Most drivers were fixed way back in
2.2.x or before. From the Changelog we have:

  Fri Nov  8 20:19:50 1996  Theodore Ts'o  <tytso@rsts-11.mit.edu>
    * serial.c (change_speed): Add support for CREAD, as required by POSIX

I just happed to notice the late change on a couple of third party drivers
and jumped to the wrong conclusion.

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