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From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
Cc: Caraman Mihai Claudiu-B02008 <B02008@freescale.com>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	"kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org" <kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kvm/ppc/booke64: fix build breakage from Altivec, and disable e6500
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 21:52:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1369950765.14679.20@snotra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1368213334.19683.9@snotra> (from scottwood@freescale.com on Fri May 10 14:15:34 2013)

On 05/10/2013 02:15:34 PM, Scott Wood wrote:
> On 05/10/2013 02:06:53 PM, Caraman Mihai Claudiu-B02008 wrote:
>> > > > I didn't see Tiejun's patch...  My goal was just to fix the  
>> build
>> > > break
>> > > > without exposing problems, and to encourage a patch to fix it
>> > > properly
>> > > > to happen sooner rather than later.  With Tiejun's patch,  
>> which is
>> > > > similar to mine except that it doesn't disable e6500 support,  
>> a user
>> > > > could BUG() the kernel by forcing an Altivec exception in a  
>> guest.
>> > > I
>> > > > didn't want to go further down the road of adding reflectors  
>> for
>> > > those
>> > > > exceptions, which could make it look like the problem was  
>> dealt with
>> > > > even though it's still not done.
>> > >
>> > > I agree it's quite annoying to hit a build breakage. Reflection  
>> is not
>> > > a proper solution for this problem (though we will require it  
>> later)
>> > > but program exception injection looks feasible as a simple fix.
>> >
>> > Program exception injection still doesn't deal with state  
>> corruption.
>> 
>> Yes but it's not critical for this particular case since nobody is  
>> able
>> to effectively use that state via altivec instructions. Leaking state
>> however can be a real issue.
> 
> Depending on guest behavior it could look like things are working  
> even though they aren't (e.g. a guest just enables MSR[VEC] and uses  
> altivec instructions, not relying on exceptions).  This really isn't  
> worth spending a lot of time debating...  Once Altivec is fixed  
> properly (you said that'd be soon, right?), we can add e6500 back to  
> the list.

Am I going to see an Altivec patch soon, or should I ask Gleb to take  
this patch instead?

-Scott

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From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
Cc: Caraman Mihai Claudiu-B02008 <B02008@freescale.com>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	"kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org" <kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kvm/ppc/booke64: fix build breakage from Altivec, and disable e6500
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 16:52:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1369950765.14679.20@snotra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1368213334.19683.9@snotra> (from scottwood@freescale.com on Fri May 10 14:15:34 2013)

On 05/10/2013 02:15:34 PM, Scott Wood wrote:
> On 05/10/2013 02:06:53 PM, Caraman Mihai Claudiu-B02008 wrote:
>> > > > I didn't see Tiejun's patch...  My goal was just to fix the  
>> build
>> > > break
>> > > > without exposing problems, and to encourage a patch to fix it
>> > > properly
>> > > > to happen sooner rather than later.  With Tiejun's patch,  
>> which is
>> > > > similar to mine except that it doesn't disable e6500 support,  
>> a user
>> > > > could BUG() the kernel by forcing an Altivec exception in a  
>> guest.
>> > > I
>> > > > didn't want to go further down the road of adding reflectors  
>> for
>> > > those
>> > > > exceptions, which could make it look like the problem was  
>> dealt with
>> > > > even though it's still not done.
>> > >
>> > > I agree it's quite annoying to hit a build breakage. Reflection  
>> is not
>> > > a proper solution for this problem (though we will require it  
>> later)
>> > > but program exception injection looks feasible as a simple fix.
>> >
>> > Program exception injection still doesn't deal with state  
>> corruption.
>> 
>> Yes but it's not critical for this particular case since nobody is  
>> able
>> to effectively use that state via altivec instructions. Leaking state
>> however can be a real issue.
> 
> Depending on guest behavior it could look like things are working  
> even though they aren't (e.g. a guest just enables MSR[VEC] and uses  
> altivec instructions, not relying on exceptions).  This really isn't  
> worth spending a lot of time debating...  Once Altivec is fixed  
> properly (you said that'd be soon, right?), we can add e6500 back to  
> the list.

Am I going to see an Altivec patch soon, or should I ask Gleb to take  
this patch instead?

-Scott

  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-30 21:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-10  3:14 [PATCH] kvm/ppc/booke64: fix build breakage from Altivec, and disable e6500 Scott Wood
2013-05-10  3:14 ` Scott Wood
2013-05-10  9:40 ` Caraman Mihai Claudiu-B02008
2013-05-10  9:40   ` Caraman Mihai Claudiu-B02008
2013-05-10 13:15   ` Alexander Graf
2013-05-10 13:15     ` Alexander Graf
2013-05-10 14:11     ` Caraman Mihai Claudiu-B02008
2013-05-10 14:11       ` Caraman Mihai Claudiu-B02008
2013-05-10 14:13       ` Alexander Graf
2013-05-10 14:13         ` Alexander Graf
2013-05-10 16:50         ` Caraman Mihai Claudiu-B02008
2013-05-10 16:50           ` Alexander Graf
2013-05-10 16:50             ` Alexander Graf
2013-05-10 18:03             ` Caraman Mihai Claudiu-B02008
2013-05-10 18:06               ` Scott Wood
2013-05-10 18:06                 ` Scott Wood
2013-05-10 18:22                 ` Alexander Graf
2013-05-10 18:22                   ` Alexander Graf
2013-05-10 18:51                   ` Caraman Mihai Claudiu-B02008
2013-05-10 18:59                     ` Alexander Graf
2013-05-10 18:59                       ` Alexander Graf
2013-05-10 18:39                 ` Caraman Mihai Claudiu-B02008
2013-05-10 17:42       ` Scott Wood
2013-05-10 17:42         ` Scott Wood
2013-05-10 18:20         ` Caraman Mihai Claudiu-B02008
2013-05-10 18:23           ` Scott Wood
2013-05-10 18:23             ` Scott Wood
2013-05-10 19:06             ` Caraman Mihai Claudiu-B02008
2013-05-10 19:15               ` Scott Wood
2013-05-10 19:15                 ` Scott Wood
2013-05-30 21:52                 ` Scott Wood [this message]
2013-05-30 21:52                   ` Scott Wood
2013-05-31  6:11                   ` Caraman Mihai Claudiu-B02008
2013-05-10 17:37   ` Scott Wood
2013-05-10 17:37     ` Scott Wood

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