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From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Michael Wang <wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: smart wake-affine
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 06:08:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1372997318.7315.23.camel@marge.simpson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51D633DB.5010508@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Fri, 2013-07-05 at 10:47 +0800, Michael Wang wrote: 
> On 07/04/2013 06:33 PM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> [snip]
> >> Well, seems like we still have many follow-up research works after fix
> >> the issue ;-)
> > 
> > Yeah.  Like how to how to exterminate the plus sign, they munch cache
> > lines, and have a general tendency to negatively impact benchmarks.
> > 
> > Q6600 box, hackbench -l 1000
> >                                                                        avg
> > 3.10.0-regress     2.293     2.297     2.313     2.291     2.295     2.297     1.000
> > 3.10.0-regressx    2.560     2.524     2.427     2.599     2.602     2.542     1.106
> 
> Wow, I used to think such issue is very hard to be tracked by
> benchmarks, is this regression stable?

Yeah, seems to be.  I was curious as to why you saw an improvement to
hackbench, didn't seem there should be any, so though I'd try it on my
little box on the way to a long weekend.  The unexpected happened.

> > pahole said...
> > 
> > marge:/usr/local/src/kernel/linux-3.x.git # tail virgin
> >         long unsigned int          timer_slack_ns;       /*  1512     8 */
> >         long unsigned int          default_timer_slack_ns; /*  1520     8 */
> >         atomic_t                   ptrace_bp_refcnt;     /*  1528     4 */
> > 
> >         /* size: 1536, cachelines: 24, members: 125 */
> >         /* sum members: 1509, holes: 6, sum holes: 23 */
> >         /* bit holes: 1, sum bit holes: 26 bits */
> >         /* padding: 4 */
> >         /* paddings: 1, sum paddings: 4 */
> > };
> > 
> > marge:/usr/local/src/kernel/linux-3.x.git # tail michael
> >         long unsigned int          default_timer_slack_ns; /*  1552     8 */
> >         atomic_t                   ptrace_bp_refcnt;     /*  1560     4 */
> > 
> >         /* size: 1568, cachelines: 25, members: 128 */
> >         /* sum members: 1533, holes: 8, sum holes: 31 */
> >         /* bit holes: 1, sum bit holes: 26 bits */
> >         /* padding: 4 */
> >         /* paddings: 1, sum paddings: 4 */
> >         /* last cacheline: 32 bytes */
> > };
> > 
> > ..but plugging holes, didn't help, moving this/that around neither, nor
> > did letting pahole go wild to get the line back.  It's plus signs I tell
> > ya, the evil things must die ;-)
> 
> Hmm...so the new members kicked some tail members to a new line...or may
> be totally different when compiler take part in...
> 
> It's really hard to estimate the influence, especially when the
> task_struct is still keep changing...

Yeah, could be memory layout crud that disappears with the next
pull/build.  Wouldn't be the first time.

-Mike


  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-05  4:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-28  5:05 [RFC PATCH] sched: smart wake-affine Michael Wang
2013-06-03  2:28 ` Michael Wang
2013-06-03  3:09   ` Mike Galbraith
2013-06-03  3:26     ` Michael Wang
2013-06-03  3:53       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-06-03  4:52         ` Michael Wang
2013-06-03  5:22           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-06-03  5:50             ` Michael Wang
2013-06-03  6:05               ` Mike Galbraith
2013-06-03  6:31                 ` Michael Wang
2013-06-13  3:09 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-02  4:43 ` [PATCH] " Michael Wang
2013-07-02  5:38   ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-02  5:50     ` Michael Wang
2013-07-02  5:54   ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-02  6:17     ` Michael Wang
2013-07-02  6:29       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-02  6:45         ` Michael Wang
2013-07-02  8:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-02  9:35     ` Michael Wang
2013-07-02  9:44       ` Michael Wang
2013-07-04  9:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-04  9:38         ` Michael Wang
2013-07-04 10:33           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-05  2:47             ` Michael Wang
2013-07-05  4:08               ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2013-07-05  4:33                 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-05  5:41                   ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-05  6:16                     ` Michael Wang
2013-07-07  6:43                       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-08  2:49                         ` Michael Wang
2013-07-08  3:12                           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-08  8:21                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-08  8:49                           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-08  9:08                             ` Michael Wang
2013-07-08  8:58                           ` Michael Wang
2013-07-08 18:59                           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-09  2:30                             ` Michael Wang
2013-07-09  2:36                               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-09  2:52                                 ` Michael Wang
2013-07-15  5:13                                   ` Michael Wang
2013-07-15  5:57                                     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-15  6:01                                       ` Michael Wang
2013-07-18  2:15                                       ` Michael Wang
2013-07-03  6:10   ` [PATCH v2] " Michael Wang
2013-07-03  8:50     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-03  9:11       ` Michael Wang

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