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From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: "Gleb Natapov" <gleb@redhat.com>,
	"Bhushan Bharat-R65777" <R65777@freescale.com>,
	"“tiejun.chen”" <tiejun.chen@windriver.com>,
	"kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org" <kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org list" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Wood Scott-B07421" <B07421@freescale.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] kvm: powerpc: set cache coherency only for kernel managed pages
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 20:32:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1374697969.15592.67@snotra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <03EEFDFE-4603-44FC-8449-2450607F2864@suse.de> (from agraf@suse.de on Wed Jul 24 04:39:59 2013)

On 07/24/2013 04:39:59 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
> 
> On 24.07.2013, at 11:35, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:21:11AM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >>> Are not we going to use page_is_ram() from   
> e500_shadow_mas2_attrib() as Scott commented?
> >>
> >> rWhy aren't we using page_is_ram() in kvm_is_mmio_pfn()?
> >>
> >>
> > Because it is much slower and, IIRC, actually used to build pfn map  
> that allow
> > us to check quickly for valid pfn.
> 
> Then why should we use page_is_ram()? :)
> 
> I really don't want the e500 code to diverge too much from what the  
> rest of the kvm code is doing.

I don't understand "actually used to build pfn map...".  What code is  
this?  I don't see any calls to page_is_ram() in the KVM code, or in  
generic mm code.  Is this a statement about what x86 does?

On PPC page_is_ram() is only called (AFAICT) for determining what  
attributes to set on mmaps.  We want to be sure that KVM always makes  
the same decision.  While pfn_valid() seems like it should be  
equivalent, it's not obvious from the PPC code that it is.

If pfn_valid() is better, why is that not used for mmap?  Why are there  
two different names for the same thing?

-Scott

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From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: "Wood Scott-B07421" <B07421@freescale.com>,
	"Gleb Natapov" <gleb@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org list" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org" <kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"“tiejun.chen”" <tiejun.chen@windriver.com>,
	"Bhushan Bharat-R65777" <R65777@freescale.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] kvm: powerpc: set cache coherency only for kernel managed pages
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:32:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1374697969.15592.67@snotra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <03EEFDFE-4603-44FC-8449-2450607F2864@suse.de> (from agraf@suse.de on Wed Jul 24 04:39:59 2013)

On 07/24/2013 04:39:59 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>=20
> On 24.07.2013, at 11:35, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>=20
> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:21:11AM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >>> Are not we going to use page_is_ram() from  =20
> e500_shadow_mas2_attrib() as Scott commented?
> >>
> >> rWhy aren't we using page_is_ram() in kvm_is_mmio_pfn()?
> >>
> >>
> > Because it is much slower and, IIRC, actually used to build pfn map =20
> that allow
> > us to check quickly for valid pfn.
>=20
> Then why should we use page_is_ram()? :)
>=20
> I really don't want the e500 code to diverge too much from what the =20
> rest of the kvm code is doing.

I don't understand "actually used to build pfn map...".  What code is =20
this?  I don't see any calls to page_is_ram() in the KVM code, or in =20
generic mm code.  Is this a statement about what x86 does?

On PPC page_is_ram() is only called (AFAICT) for determining what =20
attributes to set on mmaps.  We want to be sure that KVM always makes =20
the same decision.  While pfn_valid() seems like it should be =20
equivalent, it's not obvious from the PPC code that it is.

If pfn_valid() is better, why is that not used for mmap?  Why are there =20
two different names for the same thing?

-Scott=

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: "Gleb Natapov" <gleb@redhat.com>,
	"Bhushan Bharat-R65777" <R65777@freescale.com>,
	"“tiejun.chen”" <tiejun.chen@windriver.com>,
	"kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org" <kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org list" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Wood Scott-B07421" <B07421@freescale.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] kvm: powerpc: set cache coherency only for kernel managed pages
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:32:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1374697969.15592.67@snotra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <03EEFDFE-4603-44FC-8449-2450607F2864@suse.de> (from agraf@suse.de on Wed Jul 24 04:39:59 2013)

On 07/24/2013 04:39:59 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
> 
> On 24.07.2013, at 11:35, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:21:11AM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >>> Are not we going to use page_is_ram() from   
> e500_shadow_mas2_attrib() as Scott commented?
> >>
> >> rWhy aren't we using page_is_ram() in kvm_is_mmio_pfn()?
> >>
> >>
> > Because it is much slower and, IIRC, actually used to build pfn map  
> that allow
> > us to check quickly for valid pfn.
> 
> Then why should we use page_is_ram()? :)
> 
> I really don't want the e500 code to diverge too much from what the  
> rest of the kvm code is doing.

I don't understand "actually used to build pfn map...".  What code is  
this?  I don't see any calls to page_is_ram() in the KVM code, or in  
generic mm code.  Is this a statement about what x86 does?

On PPC page_is_ram() is only called (AFAICT) for determining what  
attributes to set on mmaps.  We want to be sure that KVM always makes  
the same decision.  While pfn_valid() seems like it should be  
equivalent, it's not obvious from the PPC code that it is.

If pfn_valid() is better, why is that not used for mmap?  Why are there  
two different names for the same thing?

-Scott

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-24 20:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-18  6:04 [PATCH 1/2] kvm: powerpc: Do not ignore "E" attribute in mas2 Bharat Bhushan
2013-07-18  6:16 ` Bharat Bhushan
2013-07-18  6:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] kvm: powerpc: set cache coherency only for kernel managed pages Bharat Bhushan
2013-07-18  6:16   ` Bharat Bhushan
2013-07-18  6:26   ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  6:26     ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  7:12     ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-18  7:12       ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-18  7:31       ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  7:31         ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  8:08         ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-18  8:08           ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-18  8:21           ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  8:21             ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  8:22             ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-18  8:22               ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-18  8:25             ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-18  8:25               ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-18  8:55               ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  8:55                 ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  9:44                 ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-18  9:44                   ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-18  9:56                   ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  9:56                     ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18 10:00                     ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-18 10:00                       ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-18 10:14                       ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18 10:14                         ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18 16:11                       ` Scott Wood
2013-07-18 16:11                         ` Scott Wood
2013-07-18  9:48               ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-18  9:48                 ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-18  9:51                 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-18 10:08                 ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18 10:08                   ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18 10:12                   ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-18 10:12                     ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-18 10:19                     ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18 10:19                       ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18 10:27                       ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-18 10:27                         ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24  2:26                         ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-24  2:26                           ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-24  8:25                           ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24  8:25                             ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24  9:11                             ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-24  9:11                               ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-24  9:21                               ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24  9:21                                 ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24  9:35                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-24  9:35                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-24  9:39                                   ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24  9:39                                     ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24 20:32                                     ` Scott Wood [this message]
2013-07-24 20:32                                       ` Scott Wood
2013-07-24 20:32                                       ` Scott Wood
2013-07-25  8:50                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25  8:50                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25  8:50                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 16:07                                         ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-25 16:07                                           ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-25 16:07                                           ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-25 16:14                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 16:14                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 16:14                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-26 22:27                                         ` Scott Wood
2013-07-26 22:27                                           ` Scott Wood
2013-07-26 22:27                                           ` Scott Wood
2013-07-24 10:01                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-24 10:01                               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-24 10:09                               ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24 10:09                                 ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24 10:19                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-24 10:19                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-24 10:25                                   ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24 10:25                                     ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24 10:30                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-24 10:30                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25  1:04                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-07-25  1:04                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-07-18  8:27   ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  8:27     ` "“tiejun.chen”"

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