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From: Steven Newbury <steve@snewbury.org.uk>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: "James Hogan" <james@albanarts.com>,
	"Kamal Mostafa" <kamal@canonical.com>,
	"Aaron Lu" <aaron.lu@intel.com>, "Kalle Valo" <kvalo@adurom.com>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Matthew Garrett" <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	"ACPI Devel Maling List" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jörg Otte" <jrg.otte@gmail.com>,
	"Martin Steigerwald" <Martin@lichtvoll.de>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Linux 3.11-rc2 (acpi backlight, revert)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 08:43:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1374824590.2254.3.camel@artifact> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2218913.HKGjJcYT1G@vostro.rjw.lan>

On Thu, 2013-07-25 at 15:00 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Monday, July 22, 2013 09:54:21 PM Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Monday, July 22, 2013 11:11:54 AM Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Linus, do you want me to send a pull request reverting 8c5bd7a and efaa14c?
> > > 
> > > Yes, but let's wait a while. Not because I think we'll fix the problem
> > > (hey, miracles might happen), but because I think it would be useful
> > > to couple the reverts with information about the particular machines
> > > that broke (and the people who reported it). So that when we
> > > inevitably try again, we can perhaps get some testing effort with
> > > those machines/people.
> > > 
> > > It doesn't seem to be a show-stopped for a large number of people, so
> > > there's no huge hurry. I'd suggest doing the revert just in time for
> > > rc3, but waiting until then to gather info about people who see
> > > breakage.
> > > 
> > > Sound like a plan?
> > 
> > Yes, it does.
> 
> OK, time to revert I guess.
> 
> James, Kamal, Steven, Jörg, Martin, Kalle, please check if the apppended patch
> fixes the backlight for you.
> 
> Aaron, please double check if acpi_video_backlight_quirks() will still work as
> needed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rafael
> 
> 
> ---
> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
> Subject: Revert "ACPI / video / i915: No ACPI backlight if firmware expects Windows 8"
> 
> We attempted to address a regression introduced by commit a57f7f9
> (ACPICA: Add Windows8/Server2012 string for _OSI method.) after which
> ACPI video backlight support doesn't work on a number of systems,
> because the relevant AML methods in the ACPI tables in their BIOSes
> become useless after the BIOS has been told that the OS is compatible
> with Windows 8.  That problem is tracked by the bug entry at:
> 
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51231
> 
> Commit 8c5bd7a (ACPI / video / i915: No ACPI backlight if firmware
> expects Windows 8) introduced for this purpose essentially prevented
> the ACPI backlight support from being used if the BIOS had been told
> that the OS was compatible with Windows 8 and the i915 driver was
> loaded, in which case the backlight would always be handled by i915.
> Unfortunately, however, that turned out to cause problems with
> backlight to appear on multiple systems with symptoms indicating that
> i915 was unable to control the backlight on those systems as
> expected.
> 
> For this reason, revert commit 8c5bd7a, but leave the function
> acpi_video_backlight_quirks() introduced by it, because another
> commit on top of it uses that function.
> 
Works fine for me.

Tested-by: Steven Newbury <steve@snewbury.org.uk>

By the way, I'm willing to test any i915 backlight patches if it helps.

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From: Steven Newbury <steve@snewbury.org.uk>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: "James Hogan" <james@albanarts.com>,
	"Kamal Mostafa" <kamal@canonical.com>,
	"Aaron Lu" <aaron.lu@intel.com>, "Kalle Valo" <kvalo@adurom.com>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Matthew Garrett" <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	"ACPI Devel Maling List" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jörg Otte" <jrg.otte@gmail.com>,
	"Martin Steigerwald" <Martin@lichtvoll.de>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Linux 3.11-rc2 (acpi backlight, revert)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 08:43:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1374824590.2254.3.camel@artifact> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2218913.HKGjJcYT1G@vostro.rjw.lan>

On Thu, 2013-07-25 at 15:00 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Monday, July 22, 2013 09:54:21 PM Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Monday, July 22, 2013 11:11:54 AM Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Linus, do you want me to send a pull request reverting 8c5bd7a and efaa14c?
> > > 
> > > Yes, but let's wait a while. Not because I think we'll fix the problem
> > > (hey, miracles might happen), but because I think it would be useful
> > > to couple the reverts with information about the particular machines
> > > that broke (and the people who reported it). So that when we
> > > inevitably try again, we can perhaps get some testing effort with
> > > those machines/people.
> > > 
> > > It doesn't seem to be a show-stopped for a large number of people, so
> > > there's no huge hurry. I'd suggest doing the revert just in time for
> > > rc3, but waiting until then to gather info about people who see
> > > breakage.
> > > 
> > > Sound like a plan?
> > 
> > Yes, it does.
> 
> OK, time to revert I guess.
> 
> James, Kamal, Steven, Jörg, Martin, Kalle, please check if the apppended patch
> fixes the backlight for you.
> 
> Aaron, please double check if acpi_video_backlight_quirks() will still work as
> needed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rafael
> 
> 
> ---
> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
> Subject: Revert "ACPI / video / i915: No ACPI backlight if firmware expects Windows 8"
> 
> We attempted to address a regression introduced by commit a57f7f9
> (ACPICA: Add Windows8/Server2012 string for _OSI method.) after which
> ACPI video backlight support doesn't work on a number of systems,
> because the relevant AML methods in the ACPI tables in their BIOSes
> become useless after the BIOS has been told that the OS is compatible
> with Windows 8.  That problem is tracked by the bug entry at:
> 
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51231
> 
> Commit 8c5bd7a (ACPI / video / i915: No ACPI backlight if firmware
> expects Windows 8) introduced for this purpose essentially prevented
> the ACPI backlight support from being used if the BIOS had been told
> that the OS was compatible with Windows 8 and the i915 driver was
> loaded, in which case the backlight would always be handled by i915.
> Unfortunately, however, that turned out to cause problems with
> backlight to appear on multiple systems with symptoms indicating that
> i915 was unable to control the backlight on those systems as
> expected.
> 
> For this reason, revert commit 8c5bd7a, but leave the function
> acpi_video_backlight_quirks() introduced by it, because another
> commit on top of it uses that function.
> 
Works fine for me.

Tested-by: Steven Newbury <steve@snewbury.org.uk>

By the way, I'm willing to test any i915 backlight patches if it helps.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-26  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-21 19:53 Linux 3.11-rc2 Linus Torvalds
2013-07-21 21:07 ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-07-22 13:08   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-22 15:43     ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-07-21 23:08 ` James Hogan
2013-07-22 13:02   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-22 13:15     ` Martin Steigerwald
2013-07-22 13:37       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-22 18:46         ` Martin Steigerwald
2013-07-22 19:57           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-24  5:10         ` Kalle Valo
2013-07-22 13:21     ` James Hogan
2013-07-22 18:11     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-22 19:54       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-23 18:46         ` Linux 3.11-rc2 (acpi backlight) Kamal Mostafa
2013-07-24  0:05           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-24  4:54             ` Steven Newbury
2013-07-24  6:49             ` James Hogan
2013-07-24  7:14               ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-24  7:19               ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-24  7:19                 ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-24 12:06                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-24 11:45             ` Jörg Otte
2013-07-25 13:00         ` Linux 3.11-rc2 (acpi backlight, revert) Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-25 13:00           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-25 14:13           ` Aaron Lu
2013-07-25 14:43           ` Kamal Mostafa
2013-07-25 14:46             ` Daniel Vetter
2013-07-25 14:46               ` Daniel Vetter
2013-07-25 14:59               ` Kamal Mostafa
2013-07-25 14:52           ` Jörg Otte
2013-07-25 14:52             ` Jörg Otte
2013-07-25 15:52             ` Jörg Otte
2013-07-25 15:52               ` Jörg Otte
2013-07-25 19:14           ` James Hogan
2013-07-25 19:14             ` James Hogan
2013-07-25 19:47             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-25 19:47               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-26  4:23               ` Joerg Platte
2013-07-26 11:22               ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-26 11:22                 ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-26  7:43           ` Steven Newbury [this message]
2013-07-26  7:43             ` Steven Newbury
2013-07-26 12:09           ` Martin Steigerwald
2013-07-26 12:09             ` Martin Steigerwald
2013-07-26 12:40             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-26 12:40               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-04 19:33               ` Martin Steigerwald
2013-08-04 19:33                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2013-08-04 22:15                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-04 22:15                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-27  5:34           ` Kalle Valo
2013-07-27 12:18             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-27 12:18               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-22 18:16     ` Linux 3.11-rc2 Matthew Garrett
2013-07-22 19:56       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-23 17:47         ` Steven Newbury
2013-07-23 19:51           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-07-23 19:51             ` Matthew Garrett
2013-07-23 21:10             ` Steven Newbury
2013-07-23 21:24           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-23 22:49             ` Steven Newbury
2013-07-22  1:25 ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-22  4:06   ` Al Viro
2013-07-24  3:22     ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-23  1:04 ` rydberg
2013-07-23  1:17   ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-07-23 18:31     ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-07-23 19:08       ` rydberg
2013-07-23 20:42         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-23 20:52           ` Myklebust, Trond

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