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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Gregory Clement <gregory.clement@free-electrons.com>,
	Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel.garcia@free-electrons.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Maen Suleiman <maen@marvell.com>,
	Lior Amsalem <alior@marvell.com>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv7 07/13] irqdomain: add function to find a MSI irq_domain
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 18:41:14 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1375951274.12551.31.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130808102255.05fd79d8@skate>

On Thu, 2013-08-08 at 10:22 +0200, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> Dear Benjamin Herrenschmidt,

> I'm sorry, but I'm not buying this. There must be some continuity when
> the maintenance of one subsystem transitions from one maintainer to
> another. I'm perfectly ok with accepting some hick-ups, but not radical
> changes in design decisions.

Well, I wrote it in the first place :-)

> What you're asking me to do is to go completely backwards compared to
> the comments and review Grant made. The irqdomain-based allocator was
> suggested by Grant (see my previous e-mail, or Grant reply at
> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2013-June/175430.html)
> and was even Acked-by Grant in
> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2013-July/187082.html.
> 
> Note that this patch set has been posted at the following dates:
> 
>  * PATCH version 7 sent on August, 7th 2013
>  * PATCH version 6 sent on August, 1st 2013
>  * PATCH version 5 sent on July, 15th 2013
>  * PATCH version 4 sent on July, 1st 2013
>  * PATCH version 3 sent on June, 19th 2013
>  * PATCH version 2 sent on June, 6th 2013
>  * RFC version 1 sent on March, 26th 2013

I'm really sorry and I feel your pain. I have not actively been
monitoring any of that stuff, and you might have gotten away without
CC'ing me or asking for my point of view but you did (and I thank you
for that), and sadly this is my opinion.

> So it has been around since 4 months, I've taken into account all the
> comments from the various maintainers who were involved, and especially
> the comments from Grant. You cannot ask me now, as we are approaching
> the next merge window for which this code is intended, to take
> completely opposite design choices than what the previous irqdomain
> maintainer was suggesting.

I can and I do. However, I also leave the opportunity of bringing in a
third party into the debate with a well known track record to overrule
me if he thinks I'm being unnecessarily obstructive.

> Could you contact Grant and align with him on those design decisions?
> It would also be good if you could read the past discussions on this
> patch set, because all what you're pointing at has already been
> discussed at length, as I pointed out in my previous e-mail.

I can try... Grant, are you around ? (I've added you to the CC list), we
might be able to catch up on IRC and discuss it ...

Cheers,
Ben.


> Thanks,
> 
> Thomas



WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: benh@kernel.crashing.org (Benjamin Herrenschmidt)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCHv7 07/13] irqdomain: add function to find a MSI irq_domain
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 18:41:14 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1375951274.12551.31.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130808102255.05fd79d8@skate>

On Thu, 2013-08-08 at 10:22 +0200, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> Dear Benjamin Herrenschmidt,

> I'm sorry, but I'm not buying this. There must be some continuity when
> the maintenance of one subsystem transitions from one maintainer to
> another. I'm perfectly ok with accepting some hick-ups, but not radical
> changes in design decisions.

Well, I wrote it in the first place :-)

> What you're asking me to do is to go completely backwards compared to
> the comments and review Grant made. The irqdomain-based allocator was
> suggested by Grant (see my previous e-mail, or Grant reply at
> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2013-June/175430.html)
> and was even Acked-by Grant in
> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2013-July/187082.html.
> 
> Note that this patch set has been posted at the following dates:
> 
>  * PATCH version 7 sent on August, 7th 2013
>  * PATCH version 6 sent on August, 1st 2013
>  * PATCH version 5 sent on July, 15th 2013
>  * PATCH version 4 sent on July, 1st 2013
>  * PATCH version 3 sent on June, 19th 2013
>  * PATCH version 2 sent on June, 6th 2013
>  * RFC version 1 sent on March, 26th 2013

I'm really sorry and I feel your pain. I have not actively been
monitoring any of that stuff, and you might have gotten away without
CC'ing me or asking for my point of view but you did (and I thank you
for that), and sadly this is my opinion.

> So it has been around since 4 months, I've taken into account all the
> comments from the various maintainers who were involved, and especially
> the comments from Grant. You cannot ask me now, as we are approaching
> the next merge window for which this code is intended, to take
> completely opposite design choices than what the previous irqdomain
> maintainer was suggesting.

I can and I do. However, I also leave the opportunity of bringing in a
third party into the debate with a well known track record to overrule
me if he thinks I'm being unnecessarily obstructive.

> Could you contact Grant and align with him on those design decisions?
> It would also be good if you could read the past discussions on this
> patch set, because all what you're pointing at has already been
> discussed at length, as I pointed out in my previous e-mail.

I can try... Grant, are you around ? (I've added you to the CC list), we
might be able to catch up on IRC and discuss it ...

Cheers,
Ben.


> Thanks,
> 
> Thomas

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-08  8:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-07  9:32 [PATCHv7 00/13] MSI support for Marvell EBU PCIe driver Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32 ` [PATCHv7 01/13] PCI: use weak functions for MSI arch-specific functions Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32 ` [PATCHv7 02/13] PCI: remove ARCH_SUPPORTS_MSI kconfig option Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32 ` [PATCHv7 03/13] PCI: Introduce new MSI chip infrastructure Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32 ` [PATCHv7 04/13] irqdomain: add irq_alloc_mapping() function Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32 ` [PATCHv7 05/13] irqdomain: refactor __irq_domain_add() Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32 ` [PATCHv7 06/13] irqdomain: add support to associate an irq_domain with a msi_chip Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32 ` [PATCHv7 07/13] irqdomain: add function to find a MSI irq_domain Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07 20:50   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-07 20:50     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-07 22:04     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07 22:04       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07 22:31       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-07 22:31         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-07 22:42         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-07 22:42           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-07 22:45           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-07 22:45             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-08  8:22             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-08  8:22               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-08  8:41               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2013-08-08  8:41                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-08  8:16         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-08  8:16           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-08  8:38           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-08  8:38             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-08  8:54             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-08  8:54               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-07  9:32 ` [PATCHv7 08/13] irqchip: armada-370-xp: properly request resources Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32 ` [PATCHv7 09/13] irqchip: armada-370-xp: implement MSI support Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32 ` [PATCHv7 10/13] ARM: pci: add ->add_bus() and ->remove_bus() hooks to hw_pci Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32 ` [PATCHv7 11/13] ARM: mvebu: the MPIC now provides MSI controller features Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32 ` [PATCHv7 12/13] PCI: mvebu: add support for MSI Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32 ` [PATCHv7 13/13] ARM: mvebu: link PCIe controllers to the MSI controller Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07  9:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-07 20:23 ` [PATCHv7 00/13] MSI support for Marvell EBU PCIe driver Jason Cooper
2013-08-07 20:23   ` Jason Cooper

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