From: Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Scott Norton <scott.norton@hp.com>,
Aswin Chandramouleeswaran <aswin@hp.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jason.low2@hp.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched, timer: Use atomics for thread_group_cputimer to improve scalability
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 16:06:19 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1425600379.2475.76.camel@j-VirtualBox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150305153506.GD5074@lerouge>
On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 16:35 +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 10:42:11AM -0800, Jason Low wrote:
> > +/* Sample thread_group_cputimer values in "cputimer", copy results to "times" */
> > +static inline void sample_group_cputimer(struct task_cputime *times,
> > + struct thread_group_cputimer *cputimer)
> > +{
> > + times->utime = atomic64_read(&cputimer->utime);
> > + times->stime = atomic64_read(&cputimer->stime);
> > + times->sum_exec_runtime = atomic64_read(&cputimer->sum_exec_runtime);
>
> So, in the case we are calling that right after setting cputimer->running, I guess we are fine
> because we just updated cputimer with the freshest values.
>
> But if we are reading this a while after, say several ticks further, there is a chance that
> we read stale values since we don't lock anymore.
>
> I don't know if it matters or not, I guess it depends how stale it can be and how much precision
> we expect from posix cpu timers. It probably doesn't matter.
>
> But just in case, atomic64_read_return(&cputimer->utime, 0) would make sure we get the freshest
> value because it performs a full barrier, at the cost of more overhead of course.
(Assuming that is atomic64_add_return :))
Yeah, there aren't any guarantees that we read the freshest value, but
since the lock isn't used to serialize subsequent accesses of
times->utime, ect..., the values can potentially become stale by the
time they get used anyway, even when we have the locking.
So I'm not sure if atomic64_add_return(&time, 0) for the reads would
really provide much of a benefit when we factor in the extra overhead.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-06 0:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-02 18:42 [PATCH v2] sched, timer: Use atomics for thread_group_cputimer to improve scalability Jason Low
2015-03-02 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-02 21:49 ` Jason Low
2015-03-19 17:21 ` Jason Low
2015-03-19 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-19 20:14 ` Jason Low
2015-03-02 19:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-03-02 19:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-03-02 21:16 ` Jason Low
2015-03-02 21:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-02 22:43 ` Jason Low
2015-03-05 15:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-03-05 20:02 ` Jason Low
2015-03-02 21:19 ` Jason Low
2015-03-05 15:35 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-03-05 15:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-03-05 16:00 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-03-05 16:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-03-06 0:06 ` Jason Low [this message]
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