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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Scott Norton <scott.norton@hp.com>,
	Aswin Chandramouleeswaran <aswin@hp.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched, timer: Use atomics for thread_group_cputimer to improve scalability
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:20:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150305152032.GC5074@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFy3Kvyhtr92FCLTcBGLmibP+BgM57zJkPMgL-JfLrZn2A@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 01:44:04PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com> wrote:
> >
> > In original code, we set cputimer->running first so it is running while
> > we call update_gt_cputime(). Now in this patch, we swapped the 2 calls
> > such that we set running after calling update_gt_cputime(), so that
> > wouldn't be an issue anymore.
> 
> Hmm. If you actually care about ordering, and 'running' should be
> written to after the other things, then it might be best if you use
> 
>    smp_store_release(&cputimer->running, 1);
> 
> which makes it clear that the store happens *after* what went before it.
> 
> Or at least have a "smp_wmb()" between the atomic64 updates and the
> "WRITE_ONCE()".

FWIW, perhaps it can be reduced with an smp_mb__before_atomic() on the
account_group_*_time() side, paired with smp_wmb() from the thread_group_cputimer()
side. Arming cputime->running shouldn't be too frequent while update cputime
happens at least every tick...

Assuming smp_mb__before_atomic() is more lightweight than smp_load_acquire()
of course. 

> 
> I guess that since you use cmpxchg in update_gt_cputime, the accesses
> end up being ordered anyway, but it might be better to make that thing
> very explicit.
> 
>                    Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-05 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-02 18:42 [PATCH v2] sched, timer: Use atomics for thread_group_cputimer to improve scalability Jason Low
2015-03-02 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-02 21:49   ` Jason Low
2015-03-19 17:21     ` Jason Low
2015-03-19 17:59       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-19 20:14         ` Jason Low
2015-03-02 19:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-03-02 19:43   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-03-02 21:16     ` Jason Low
2015-03-02 21:44       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-02 22:43         ` Jason Low
2015-03-05 15:20         ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2015-03-05 20:02           ` Jason Low
2015-03-02 21:19   ` Jason Low
2015-03-05 15:35 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-03-05 15:56   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-03-05 16:00     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-03-05 16:16       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-03-06  0:06   ` Jason Low

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