From: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
To: Josef Bacik <jbacik@fb.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
mingo@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
morten.rasmussen@arm.com, kernel-team <Kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] sched: prefer an idle cpu vs an idle sibling for BALANCE_WAKE
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 06:52:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1433393548.3651.45.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <556F64B9.1050603@fb.com>
On Wed, 2015-06-03 at 16:34 -0400, Josef Bacik wrote:
> On 06/03/2015 01:43 PM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > There are also other loads like your server where waking to an idle cpu
> > dominates all else, pgbench is one of those. In that case, you've got a
> > 1:N waker/wakee relationship, and what matters above ALL else is when
> > the mother of all work (the single server thread) wants a CPU, it had
> > better get it NOW, else the load stalls. Likewise, 'mom' being
> > preempted hurts truckloads. Perhaps your server has a similar thing
> > going on, keeping wakees the hell away from the waker rules all.
> >
>
> Yeah our server has two waker threads (one per numa node) and then the N
> number of wakee threads. I'll run tbench and pgbench with the new
> patches and see if there's a degredation. Thanks,
If you look for wake_wide(), it could perhaps be used to select wider
search for only the right flavor load component when BALANCE_WAKE is
set. That would let the cache lovers in your box continue to perform
while improving the 1:N component. That wider search still needs to
become cheaper though, low hanging fruit being to stop searching when
you find load = 0.. but you may meet the energy efficient folks, who
iirc want to make it even more expensive.
wake_wide() inadvertently helped another sore spot btw - a gaggle of
pretty light tasks being awakened from an interrupt source tended to
cluster around that source, preventing such loads from being all they
can be in a very similar manner. Xen (shudder;) showed that nicely in
older kernels, due to the way its weird dom0 gizmo works.
-Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-04 4:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-27 21:22 [PATCH RESEND] sched: prefer an idle cpu vs an idle sibling for BALANCE_WAKE Josef Bacik
2015-05-28 3:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-05-28 9:49 ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-28 10:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-05-28 11:48 ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-28 11:49 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-05-28 10:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-28 11:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-28 14:27 ` Josef Bacik
2015-05-29 21:03 ` Josef Bacik
2015-05-30 3:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-06-01 19:38 ` Josef Bacik
2015-06-01 20:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-01 21:03 ` Josef Bacik
2015-06-02 17:12 ` Josef Bacik
2015-06-03 14:12 ` Rik van Riel
2015-06-03 14:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-03 14:49 ` Josef Bacik
2015-06-03 15:30 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-06-03 15:57 ` Josef Bacik
2015-06-03 16:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-06-03 17:16 ` Josef Bacik
2015-06-03 17:43 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-06-03 20:34 ` Josef Bacik
2015-06-04 4:52 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2015-06-01 22:15 ` Rik van Riel
2015-06-11 20:33 ` Josef Bacik
2015-06-12 3:42 ` Rik van Riel
2015-06-12 5:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-06-17 18:06 ` Josef Bacik
2015-06-18 0:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-06-18 3:46 ` Josef Bacik
2015-06-18 4:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-02 17:44 ` Josef Bacik
2015-07-03 6:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-03 9:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-04 15:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-05 7:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-06 5:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-06 14:34 ` Josef Bacik
2015-07-06 18:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-06 19:41 ` Josef Bacik
2015-07-07 4:01 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-07 9:43 ` [patch] " Mike Galbraith
2015-07-07 13:40 ` Josef Bacik
2015-07-07 15:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-07 17:06 ` Josef Bacik
2015-07-08 6:13 ` [patch] sched: beef up wake_wide() Mike Galbraith
2015-07-09 13:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-09 14:07 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-09 14:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-10 5:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-10 13:41 ` Josef Bacik
2015-07-10 20:59 ` Josef Bacik
2015-07-11 3:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-13 13:53 ` Josef Bacik
2015-07-14 11:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-14 13:49 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-14 14:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-14 14:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-14 15:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-14 15:39 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-14 16:01 ` Josef Bacik
2015-07-14 17:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-15 17:11 ` Josef Bacik
2015-08-03 17:07 ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Beef " tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2015-05-28 11:16 ` [PATCH RESEND] sched: prefer an idle cpu vs an idle sibling for BALANCE_WAKE Mike Galbraith
2015-05-28 11:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-28 12:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-05-28 12:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-28 12:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-28 15:22 ` David Ahern
2015-05-28 11:55 ` Srikar Dronamraju
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