From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
To: Manish Jaggi <mjaggi@caviumnetworks.com>
Cc: "Vijay Kilari" <vijay.kilari@gmail.com>,
"Stefano Stabellini" <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
"Prasun Kapoor" <Prasun.kapoor@caviumnetworks.com>,
"Kumar, Vijaya" <Vijaya.Kumar@caviumnetworks.com>,
"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
"Julien Grall" <julien.grall@citrix.com>,
"Stefano Stabellini" <stefano.stabellini@citrix.com>,
"Kulkarni, Ganapatrao" <Ganapatrao.Kulkarni@caviumnetworks.com>,
"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: PCI Passthrough ARM Design : Draft1
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:21:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1435234888.32500.80.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <558BED2D.3080600@caviumnetworks.com>
On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 17:29 +0530, Manish Jaggi wrote:
>
> On Thursday 25 June 2015 02:41 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 13:14 +0530, Manish Jaggi wrote:
> >> On Wednesday 17 June 2015 07:59 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 2015-06-17 at 07:14 -0700, Manish Jaggi wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday 17 June 2015 06:43 AM, Ian Campbell wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 2015-06-17 at 13:58 +0100, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> >>>>>> Yes, pciback is already capable of doing that, see
> >>>>>> drivers/xen/xen-pciback/conf_space.c
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am not sure if the pci-back driver can query the guest memory map. Is there an existing hypercall ?
> >>>>>> No, that is missing. I think it would be OK for the virtual BAR to be
> >>>>>> initialized to the same value as the physical BAR. But I would let the
> >>>>>> guest change the virtual BAR address and map the MMIO region wherever it
> >>>>>> wants in the guest physical address space with
> >>>>>> XENMEM_add_to_physmap_range.
> >>>>> I disagree, given that we've apparently survived for years with x86 PV
> >>>>> guests not being able to right to the BARs I think it would be far
> >>>>> simpler to extend this to ARM and x86 PVH too than to allow guests to
> >>>>> start writing BARs which has various complex questions around it.
> >>>>> All that's needed is for the toolstack to set everything up and write
> >>>>> some new xenstore nodes in the per-device directory with the BAR
> >>>>> address/size.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also most guests apparently don't reassign the PCI bus by default, so
> >>>>> using a 1:1 by default and allowing it to be changed would require
> >>>>> modifying the guests to reasssign. Easy on Linux, but I don't know about
> >>>>> others and I imagine some OSes (especially simpler/embedded ones) are
> >>>>> assuming the firmware sets up something sane by default.
> >>>> Does the Flow below captures all points
> >>>> a) When assigning a device to domU, toolstack creates a node in per
> >>>> device directory with virtual BAR address/size
> >>>>
> >>>> Option1:
> >>>> b) toolstack using some hypercall ask xen to create p2m mapping {
> >>>> virtual BAR : physical BAR } for domU
> >> While implementing I think rather than the toolstack, pciback driver in
> >> dom0 can send the
> >> hypercall by to map the physical bar to virtual bar.
> >> Thus no xenstore entry is required for BARs.
> > pciback doesn't (and shouldn't) have sufficient knowledge of the guest
> > address space layout to determine what the virtual BAR should be. The
> > toolstack is the right place for that decision to be made.
> Yes, the point is the pciback driver reads the physical BAR regions on
> request from domU.
> So it sends a hypercall to map the physical bars into stage2 translation
> for the domU through xen.
> Xen would use the holes left in IPA for MMIO.
I still think it is the toolstack which should do this, that's whewre
these sorts of layout decisions belong.
> Xen would return the IPA for pci-back to return to the request to domU.
> >> Moreover a pci driver would read BARs only once.
> > You can't assume that though, a driver can do whatever it likes, or the
> > module might be unloaded and reloaded in the guest etc etc.
> >
> > Are you going to send out a second draft based on the discussion so far?
> yes, I was working on that only. I was traveling this week 24 hour
> flights jetlag...
> >
> > Ian.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Xen-devel mailing list
> > Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
> > http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-25 12:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-08 7:52 PCI Passthrough ARM Design : Draft1 Manish Jaggi
2015-06-09 14:42 ` Jaggi, Manish
2015-06-09 15:58 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-10 12:45 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-10 19:21 ` Julien Grall
2015-06-11 8:56 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-11 11:25 ` Julien Grall
2015-06-11 12:02 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-16 16:13 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-16 16:21 ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-06-16 17:11 ` Manish Jaggi
2015-06-16 17:28 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-16 17:46 ` Manish Jaggi
2015-06-17 12:58 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-17 13:43 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-17 14:14 ` Manish Jaggi
2015-06-17 14:29 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-17 14:35 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-22 18:33 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-23 8:44 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-23 14:11 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-25 7:44 ` Manish Jaggi
2015-06-25 9:11 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25 11:59 ` Manish Jaggi
2015-06-25 12:21 ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2015-06-25 17:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-26 2:07 ` Manish Jaggi
2015-06-26 7:32 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-26 8:50 ` Manish Jaggi
2015-06-26 9:09 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-26 11:57 ` Manish Jaggi
2015-06-26 12:41 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-26 13:28 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-26 13:47 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-26 13:52 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-16 17:16 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-17 10:08 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-17 12:11 ` Julien Grall
2015-06-17 12:21 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-17 12:53 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-17 12:57 ` Julien Grall
2015-06-17 13:32 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-17 13:40 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-17 13:56 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-17 14:18 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-17 14:26 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-22 18:31 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-11 9:05 ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-06-11 12:04 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-16 16:17 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-11 21:38 ` Manish Jaggi
2015-06-12 8:32 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-12 11:41 ` Julien Grall
2015-06-12 11:52 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-16 5:42 ` Manish Jaggi
2015-06-16 7:02 ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-06-16 10:42 ` Julien Grall
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