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From: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Paul Turner <pjt-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	lizefan-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	cgroups <cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	kernel-team <kernel-team-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org>,
	Linus Torvalds
	<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified hierarchy
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 05:23:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1439954620.3479.30.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150818203117.GC15739-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, 2015-08-18 at 13:31 -0700, Tejun Heo wrote:

> So, this is a trade-off we're consciously making.  If there are
> common-enough use cases which require jumping across different cgroup
> domains, we'll try to figure out a way to accomodate those but by
> default migration is a very cold and expensive path.

Hm.  I know of a big data outfit to which attach/detach performance was
important enough for them to have plucked an old experimental overhead
reduction hack (mine) off lkml, and shipped it.  It must have mattered a
LOT for them (not suicidal crash test dummies) to have done that.

	-Mike

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	lizefan@huawei.com, cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel-team <kernel-team@fb.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified hierarchy
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 05:23:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1439954620.3479.30.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150818203117.GC15739@mtj.duckdns.org>

On Tue, 2015-08-18 at 13:31 -0700, Tejun Heo wrote:

> So, this is a trade-off we're consciously making.  If there are
> common-enough use cases which require jumping across different cgroup
> domains, we'll try to figure out a way to accomodate those but by
> default migration is a very cold and expensive path.

Hm.  I know of a big data outfit to which attach/detach performance was
important enough for them to have plucked an old experimental overhead
reduction hack (mine) off lkml, and shipped it.  It must have mattered a
LOT for them (not suicidal crash test dummies) to have done that.

	-Mike


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-08-19  3:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-03 22:41 [PATCHSET sched,cgroup] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified hierarchy Tejun Heo
2015-08-03 22:41 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-03 22:41 ` [PATCH 1/3] cgroup: define controller file conventions Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <1438641689-14655-2-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-04  8:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-04  8:42       ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]       ` <20150804084257.GJ25159-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-04 14:51         ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-04 14:51           ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-04 19:31     ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2015-08-04 19:31       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <20150804193101.GI17598-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-05  0:39         ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-08-05  0:39           ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-08-05  7:47           ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-06  2:30             ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
     [not found]               ` <55C2C6B0.3080203-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-07 18:17                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-07 18:17                   ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-17 22:04                   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-08-17 21:34         ` Johannes Weiner
2015-08-17 21:34           ` Johannes Weiner
2015-08-04  8:48   ` [PATCH " Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-04 14:53     ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-03 22:41 ` [PATCH 2/3] sched: Misc preps for cgroup unified hierarchy interface Tejun Heo
2015-08-03 22:41 ` [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified hierarchy Tejun Heo
2015-08-04  9:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-04 15:10     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <20150804151017.GD17598-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-05  9:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-05  9:10           ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]           ` <20150805091036.GT25159-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-05 14:31             ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-05 14:31               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]               ` <20150805143132.GK17598-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-17 20:35                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-17 20:35                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]               ` <CAPM31RJTf0v=2v90kN6-HM9xUGab_k++upO0Ym=irmfO9+BbFw@mail.gmail.com>
2015-08-18  4:03                 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-18 20:31                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-18 20:31                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-18 23:39                     ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-08-19 16:23                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                     ` <20150818203117.GC15739-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-19  3:23                       ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2015-08-19  3:23                         ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]                         ` <1439954620.3479.30.camel-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-19 16:41                           ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-19 16:41                             ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-20  4:00                             ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]                               ` <1440043259.3515.84.camel-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-20  7:52                                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-20  7:52                                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                   ` <20150820075232.GA27917-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-20  8:47                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-20  8:47                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-21 19:26                       ` Paul Turner
2015-08-21 19:26                         ` Paul Turner
2015-08-22 18:29                         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                           ` <20150822182916.GE20768-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 15:47                             ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-08-24 15:47                               ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-08-24 17:04                               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                 ` <20150824170427.GA27262-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 19:18                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-24 19:18                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-24 20:00                                   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-08-24 20:00                                     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
     [not found]                                     ` <55DB77F1.5080802-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 20:25                                       ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 20:25                                         ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 21:00                                         ` Paul Turner
     [not found]                                           ` <CAPM31R+ckFO5vNG4L5+h-yokFaZQz6kHe5a+pkRCfbL0H+NjXg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 21:12                                             ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 21:12                                               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                               ` <20150824211238.GI28944-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 21:15                                                 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 21:15                                                   ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 20:54                                   ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 20:54                                     ` Paul Turner
     [not found]                                     ` <CAPM31RJi07qs42YsH=4JQSbZ+J-zCLv8e7yELb3tF_qAZmLqRA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 21:02                                       ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 21:02                                         ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 21:10                                         ` Paul Turner
     [not found]                                           ` <CAPM31R+i7BD8x9h_6wZVTa0zCB7XP0SGL5dSA-n6h9PTeAEhug-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 21:17                                             ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 21:17                                               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                               ` <20150824211707.GJ28944-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 21:19                                                 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 21:19                                                   ` Paul Turner
     [not found]                                                   ` <CAPM31R+vt1oAPCB-q6570RqZtJVBu5MH=gcQD2m9mjauStV7MA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 21:40                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 21:40                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 22:03                                                       ` Paul Turner
     [not found]                                                         ` <CAPM31R+Mnk=AL6h05eMMQvPEEfnjkB3iGb+oZj28jAQ9-ajOxA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 22:49                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 22:49                                                             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                             ` <20150824224936.GO28944-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 23:15                                                               ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 23:15                                                                 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-25  2:36                                                                 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-08-25  2:36                                                                   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
     [not found]                                                                   ` <55DBD4A9.7080603-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-25 21:13                                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-25 21:13                                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-25  9:24                                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20150825092441.GA24131-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-25 10:00                                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-25 10:00                                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-25 19:18                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-25 19:18                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 20:52                           ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 21:36                             ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 21:58                               ` Paul Turner
     [not found]                                 ` <CAPM31RKCO-yxtVf+iUs8FOqk6uGSyixEXtx9zSzxQ1uOGtkDqQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 22:19                                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 22:19                                     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                     ` <20150824221935.GN28944-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 23:06                                       ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 23:06                                         ` Paul Turner
     [not found]                                         ` <CAPM31RK08pC3g9qx+TEw6PQvtHk8idKE3OALQN8cFr_QOuT3FA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-25 21:02                                           ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-25 21:02                                             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                             ` <20150825210234.GE26785-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-02 17:03                                               ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-02 17:03                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-09 12:49                                               ` Paul Turner
2015-09-09 12:49                                                 ` Paul Turner
     [not found]                                                 ` <CAPM31RJvrPL7S37=yhxMA5OGUFNUfPurTZ21nfH6eFRb15ZGtw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-12 14:40                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-12 14:40                                                     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                     ` <20150912144007.GA8942-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-17 14:35                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 14:35                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                                                         ` <20150917143527.GJ3604-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-17 14:53                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-17 14:53                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-17 15:42                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 15:10                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 15:10                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                                                             ` <20150917151049.GB11639-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-17 15:52                                                               ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-17 15:52                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20150917155245.GF7205-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-17 15:53                                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 15:53                                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 23:29                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-17 23:29                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-18 11:27                                                       ` Paul Turner
2015-09-18 11:27                                                         ` Paul Turner
     [not found]                                                         ` <CAPM31RLAtuaDbE9+nvMvgMB8zaOpxVcriCyE9qqszNM3XXTo5Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-01 18:46                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-01 18:46                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-15 11:42                                                             ` Paul Turner
     [not found]                                                               ` <CAPM31RKx0vT-9VFN=XASYM4iv4U5ZGZW93XRtJd_7mOHwu76NA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-23 22:21                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-23 22:21                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-24  4:36                                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-25  2:18                                                                     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                                       ` <20151025021829.GA15471-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-25  3:43                                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-25  3:43                                                                           ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]                                                                           ` <1445744613.3180.60.camel-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-27  3:16                                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27  3:16                                                                               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                                               ` <20151027031656.GA11962-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-27  5:42                                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-27  5:42                                                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <1445924531.2909.79.camel-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-27  5:46                                                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27  5:46                                                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27  5:56                                                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <1445925402.2909.86.camel-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-27  6:00                                                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27  6:00                                                                                             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                                                             ` <20151027060027.GA2888-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-27  6:08                                                                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-27  6:08                                                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-25  3:54                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                                                                         ` <CA+55aFzMdG5VPA0ZvoFANj-H-7LHeu=JUvvqPykF_w5Nd0pnSA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-25  9:33                                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-25  9:33                                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                                                             ` <20151025093331.GA4834-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-25 10:41                                                                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-25 10:41                                                                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-25 10:47                                                                                 ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <562CB328.3090906-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-25 11:58                                                                                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-25 11:58                                                                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-25 13:17                                                                                       ` Florian Weimer
2015-10-25 13:40                                                                                         ` Getrandom wrapper Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-26 13:32                                                                                           ` Florian Weimer
2015-10-26 14:10                                                                                         ` [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified hierarchy Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]   ` <1438641689-14655-4-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-04 19:32     ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2015-08-04 19:32       ` Tejun Heo

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