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From: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: "linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux ACPI <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] ACPI: Change NFIT driver to set PMEM type to iomem entry
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:00:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1455732020.2925.255.camel@hpe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1455674441.2925.204.camel@hpe.com>

On Tue, 2016-02-16 at 19:00 -0700, Toshi Kani wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-02-12 at 15:32 -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2016-02-12 at 11:41 -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com>
> > > > wro
>  :
> > > > Hmm, if we set the type on driver load, should we clear the type on
> > > > driver unload?
> > > 
> > > I think this type update should stay for the life-cycle of this iomem
> > > entry itself since this range is PMEM even after the driver is
> > > unloaded.  This is an extension of the boot-time iomem table
> > > initialization from e820/EFI, which allows ACPI to set a correct
> > > type.  This is independent from driver's resource allocations.
> > > 
> > > > Actually it might be more straightforward to specify a type at
> > > > request_region() time.  That way it gets released at
> > > > release_region().  We're already setting a resource name at
> > > > request_region time, adding a type annotation at the time seems
> > > > appropriate.
> > > 
> > > I first considered simply setting "namespaceX.X" as PMEM.  However,
> > > region_intersects() and its friends only check the top-level entries,
> > > not their children, of the iomem table.  And I think a child should
> > > have the same type as the parent as I fixed it in patch 1/3.
> > 
> > Did we investigate updating region_intersects() to check children?
> > When a child sub-divides a region with different types it may be the
> > wrong answer to check the parent.  Is there a problem with moving
> > checking to the child?
> 
> Here are three options I can think of.
> 
> 1) Set pmem type to "reserved" (This patch-set)
>  - Add a new iomem_set_desc(), which sets a given type to a top-level
> entry.  Change the ACPI NFIT driver to call it to set pmem type to
> "reserved" entry.
>  - region_intersects() finds a pmem entry by checking top-level entries
> (no change).
> 
> 2) Change region_intersects() to check children's type
>  - Add a new request_region_ext(), which is an extension to
> request_region() to allow specifying a type of resource.  It puts a new
> child entry under "reserved".  Change the pmem driver to call this func.
>  - Change region_intersects() to check children's type for finding this
> child pmem entry.
> 
> 3) Pmem driver to call insert_resource()
>  - Change the pmem driver to call insert_resource(), which puts a new
> pmem entry as the parent of "reserved".
>  - region_intersects() finds a pmem entry by checking top-level entries
> (no change).
>  - Add a new release_resource_self(), which releases a given entry and
> keeps its children if any.  Change the pmem driver to call it for
> release.

Thinking further, 3) needs to be modified as follows.  insert_resource()
should only be allowed for producers of resource (ex. nfit), not consumers
(ex. pmem).  It also needs to export insert_resource().

3) NFIT driver to call insert_resource()
 - Change the ACPI nfit driver to call insert_resource() when a target
range is not marked as PMEM (i.e. "reserved") or not present in iomem.
 This puts a new PMEM entry as the parent of "reserved".
 - region_intersects() finds a pmem entry by checking top-level entries (no
change).
 - Add a new release_resource_self(), which releases a given entry and
keeps its children if any.  Change the nfit driver to call it for release.

> This patch-set implements 1).  The pmem type is set to "reserved" for its
> life-cycle.  This option is simplest.
> 
> For 2), the changes to region_intersects() may be too complex for
> maintenance.  

I should have said "region_intersects() may be overly complicated for this
purpose and maintenance".

> Here are a few examples when region_intersects() is called
> with addr [1-10] where iomem has entry P and its children.
> 
> Case A: P is fully covered by children C1 & C2.  region_intersects()
> ignores P's type, but checks C1 and C2's.
>   
>   P [1-10] + C1 [1-5]
>            + C2 [6-10]
> 
> Case B: C2 is fully covered by C3, but P is not.  region_intersects()
> ignores C2's type, but checks P, C1, C3's.
> 
>   P [1-10] + C1 [1-2]
>            + C2 [6-10] + C3 [6-10]
> 
> I think region_intersects() will need to construct a flat table from the
> tree while making recursive calls to walk thru all children.
> 
> 3) is similar to 2), but avoids the changes to region_intersects() since
> insert_resource() inserts a new entry as the parent to "reserved".

3) is actually similar to 1) as both options change the producer side.

>  However, a new interface is necessary to put "reserved" back to top-
> level when releasing the added entry.
> 
> My recommendation is go with either 1) or 3).  What do you think?

I think we should modify the producer side, so 1) or 3) are still my
recommendation.

Thanks,
-Toshi
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From: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: "linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux ACPI <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] ACPI: Change NFIT driver to set PMEM type to iomem entry
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:00:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1455732020.2925.255.camel@hpe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1455674441.2925.204.camel@hpe.com>

On Tue, 2016-02-16 at 19:00 -0700, Toshi Kani wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-02-12 at 15:32 -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2016-02-12 at 11:41 -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com>
> > > > wro
>  :
> > > > Hmm, if we set the type on driver load, should we clear the type on
> > > > driver unload?
> > > 
> > > I think this type update should stay for the life-cycle of this iomem
> > > entry itself since this range is PMEM even after the driver is
> > > unloaded.  This is an extension of the boot-time iomem table
> > > initialization from e820/EFI, which allows ACPI to set a correct
> > > type.  This is independent from driver's resource allocations.
> > > 
> > > > Actually it might be more straightforward to specify a type at
> > > > request_region() time.  That way it gets released at
> > > > release_region().  We're already setting a resource name at
> > > > request_region time, adding a type annotation at the time seems
> > > > appropriate.
> > > 
> > > I first considered simply setting "namespaceX.X" as PMEM.  However,
> > > region_intersects() and its friends only check the top-level entries,
> > > not their children, of the iomem table.  And I think a child should
> > > have the same type as the parent as I fixed it in patch 1/3.
> > 
> > Did we investigate updating region_intersects() to check children?
> > When a child sub-divides a region with different types it may be the
> > wrong answer to check the parent.  Is there a problem with moving
> > checking to the child?
> 
> Here are three options I can think of.
> 
> 1) Set pmem type to "reserved" (This patch-set)
>  - Add a new iomem_set_desc(), which sets a given type to a top-level
> entry.  Change the ACPI NFIT driver to call it to set pmem type to
> "reserved" entry.
>  - region_intersects() finds a pmem entry by checking top-level entries
> (no change).
> 
> 2) Change region_intersects() to check children's type
>  - Add a new request_region_ext(), which is an extension to
> request_region() to allow specifying a type of resource.  It puts a new
> child entry under "reserved".  Change the pmem driver to call this func.
>  - Change region_intersects() to check children's type for finding this
> child pmem entry.
> 
> 3) Pmem driver to call insert_resource()
>  - Change the pmem driver to call insert_resource(), which puts a new
> pmem entry as the parent of "reserved".
>  - region_intersects() finds a pmem entry by checking top-level entries
> (no change).
>  - Add a new release_resource_self(), which releases a given entry and
> keeps its children if any.  Change the pmem driver to call it for
> release.

Thinking further, 3) needs to be modified as follows.  insert_resource()
should only be allowed for producers of resource (ex. nfit), not consumers
(ex. pmem).  It also needs to export insert_resource().

3) NFIT driver to call insert_resource()
 - Change the ACPI nfit driver to call insert_resource() when a target
range is not marked as PMEM (i.e. "reserved") or not present in iomem.
 This puts a new PMEM entry as the parent of "reserved".
 - region_intersects() finds a pmem entry by checking top-level entries (no
change).
 - Add a new release_resource_self(), which releases a given entry and
keeps its children if any.  Change the nfit driver to call it for release.

> This patch-set implements 1).  The pmem type is set to "reserved" for its
> life-cycle.  This option is simplest.
> 
> For 2), the changes to region_intersects() may be too complex for
> maintenance.  

I should have said "region_intersects() may be overly complicated for this
purpose and maintenance".

> Here are a few examples when region_intersects() is called
> with addr [1-10] where iomem has entry P and its children.
> 
> Case A: P is fully covered by children C1 & C2.  region_intersects()
> ignores P's type, but checks C1 and C2's.
>   
>   P [1-10] + C1 [1-5]
>            + C2 [6-10]
> 
> Case B: C2 is fully covered by C3, but P is not.  region_intersects()
> ignores C2's type, but checks P, C1, C3's.
> 
>   P [1-10] + C1 [1-2]
>            + C2 [6-10] + C3 [6-10]
> 
> I think region_intersects() will need to construct a flat table from the
> tree while making recursive calls to walk thru all children.
> 
> 3) is similar to 2), but avoids the changes to region_intersects() since
> insert_resource() inserts a new entry as the parent to "reserved".

3) is actually similar to 1) as both options change the producer side.

>  However, a new interface is necessary to put "reserved" back to top-
> level when releasing the added entry.
> 
> My recommendation is go with either 1) or 3).  What do you think?

I think we should modify the producer side, so 1) or 3) are still my
recommendation.

Thanks,
-Toshi

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: "linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux ACPI <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] ACPI: Change NFIT driver to set PMEM type to iomem entry
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:00:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1455732020.2925.255.camel@hpe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1455674441.2925.204.camel@hpe.com>

On Tue, 2016-02-16 at 19:00 -0700, Toshi Kani wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-02-12 at 15:32 -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2016-02-12 at 11:41 -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com>
> > > > wro
>  :
> > > > Hmm, if we set the type on driver load, should we clear the type on
> > > > driver unload?
> > > 
> > > I think this type update should stay for the life-cycle of this iomem
> > > entry itself since this range is PMEM even after the driver is
> > > unloaded.  This is an extension of the boot-time iomem table
> > > initialization from e820/EFI, which allows ACPI to set a correct
> > > type.  This is independent from driver's resource allocations.
> > > 
> > > > Actually it might be more straightforward to specify a type at
> > > > request_region() time.  That way it gets released at
> > > > release_region().  We're already setting a resource name at
> > > > request_region time, adding a type annotation at the time seems
> > > > appropriate.
> > > 
> > > I first considered simply setting "namespaceX.X" as PMEM.  However,
> > > region_intersects() and its friends only check the top-level entries,
> > > not their children, of the iomem table.  And I think a child should
> > > have the same type as the parent as I fixed it in patch 1/3.
> > 
> > Did we investigate updating region_intersects() to check children?
> > When a child sub-divides a region with different types it may be the
> > wrong answer to check the parent.  Is there a problem with moving
> > checking to the child?
> 
> Here are three options I can think of.
> 
> 1) Set pmem type to "reserved" (This patch-set)
>  - Add a new iomem_set_desc(), which sets a given type to a top-level
> entry.  Change the ACPI NFIT driver to call it to set pmem type to
> "reserved" entry.
>  - region_intersects() finds a pmem entry by checking top-level entries
> (no change).
> 
> 2) Change region_intersects() to check children's type
>  - Add a new request_region_ext(), which is an extension to
> request_region() to allow specifying a type of resource.  It puts a new
> child entry under "reserved".  Change the pmem driver to call this func.
>  - Change region_intersects() to check children's type for finding this
> child pmem entry.
> 
> 3) Pmem driver to call insert_resource()
>  - Change the pmem driver to call insert_resource(), which puts a new
> pmem entry as the parent of "reserved".
>  - region_intersects() finds a pmem entry by checking top-level entries
> (no change).
>  - Add a new release_resource_self(), which releases a given entry and
> keeps its children if any.  Change the pmem driver to call it for
> release.

Thinking further, 3) needs to be modified as follows.  insert_resource()
should only be allowed for producers of resource (ex. nfit), not consumers
(ex. pmem).  It also needs to export insert_resource().

3) NFIT driver to call insert_resource()
 - Change the ACPI nfit driver to call insert_resource() when a target
range is not marked as PMEM (i.e. "reserved") or not present in iomem.
 This puts a new PMEM entry as the parent of "reserved".
 - region_intersects() finds a pmem entry by checking top-level entries (no
change).
 - Add a new release_resource_self(), which releases a given entry and
keeps its children if any.  Change the nfit driver to call it for release.

> This patch-set implements 1).  The pmem type is set to "reserved" for its
> life-cycle.  This option is simplest.
> 
> For 2), the changes to region_intersects() may be too complex for
> maintenance.  

I should have said "region_intersects() may be overly complicated for this
purpose and maintenance".

> Here are a few examples when region_intersects() is called
> with addr [1-10] where iomem has entry P and its children.
> 
> Case A: P is fully covered by children C1 & C2.  region_intersects()
> ignores P's type, but checks C1 and C2's.
>   
>   P [1-10] + C1 [1-5]
>            + C2 [6-10]
> 
> Case B: C2 is fully covered by C3, but P is not.  region_intersects()
> ignores C2's type, but checks P, C1, C3's.
> 
>   P [1-10] + C1 [1-2]
>            + C2 [6-10] + C3 [6-10]
> 
> I think region_intersects() will need to construct a flat table from the
> tree while making recursive calls to walk thru all children.
> 
> 3) is similar to 2), but avoids the changes to region_intersects() since
> insert_resource() inserts a new entry as the parent to "reserved".

3) is actually similar to 1) as both options change the producer side.

>  However, a new interface is necessary to put "reserved" back to top-
> level when releasing the added entry.
> 
> My recommendation is go with either 1) or 3).  What do you think?

I think we should modify the producer side, so 1) or 3) are still my
recommendation.

Thanks,
-Toshi

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-17 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-02 18:55 [PATCH 0/3] Support persistent memory as reserved type in e820/EFI Toshi Kani
2016-02-02 18:55 ` Toshi Kani
2016-02-02 18:55 ` [PATCH 1/3] resource: Make __request_region to inherit from immediate parent Toshi Kani
2016-02-02 18:55   ` Toshi Kani
2016-02-02 18:55 ` [PATCH 2/3] resource: Add iomem_set_desc() to set I/O descriptor Toshi Kani
2016-02-02 18:55   ` Toshi Kani
2016-02-02 18:55 ` [PATCH 3/3] ACPI: Change NFIT driver to set PMEM type to iomem entry Toshi Kani
2016-02-02 18:55   ` Toshi Kani
2016-02-12 19:41   ` Dan Williams
2016-02-12 19:41     ` Dan Williams
2016-02-12 22:30     ` Toshi Kani
2016-02-12 22:30       ` Toshi Kani
2016-02-12 23:32       ` Dan Williams
2016-02-12 23:32         ` Dan Williams
2016-02-17  2:00         ` Toshi Kani
2016-02-17  2:00           ` Toshi Kani
2016-02-17 18:00           ` Toshi Kani [this message]
2016-02-17 18:00             ` Toshi Kani
2016-02-17 18:00             ` Toshi Kani
2016-02-17 19:34             ` Dan Williams
2016-02-17 19:34               ` Dan Williams
2016-02-17 22:56               ` Toshi Kani
2016-02-17 22:56                 ` Toshi Kani

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