From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
To: Karel Zak <kzak-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux Containers
<containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>,
util-linux-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: bind mounting namespace inodes for unprivileged users
Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 09:16:42 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1462367802.14310.41.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160504084403.7z67paycj663lkbt-xkT7n84Rsxv/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 10:44 +0200, Karel Zak wrote:
> On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 02:20:56PM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> > Right at the moment, unprivileged users cannot call mount --bind to
> > create a permanent copy of any of their namespaces. This is
> > annoying
> > because it means that for entry to long running containers you have
> > to
> > spawn an undying process and use nsenter via the /proc/<pid>/ns
> > files.
>
> Well, unshare is able to create permanent namespaces and the bind
> mounts and nsenter is able to follow these files, but you need root
> permissions to create this stuff.
>
> touch /home/kzak/ns
> sudo unshare --uts=/home/kzak/ns
> <exit namespace>
>
> sudo nsenter --uts=/home/kzak/ns
>
> it means you really do not need any process in the namespace.
Yes, I do this when I'm root.
> Not sure about unprivileged users, it always sounds like a game with
> Pandora's box ;-)
But that's currently my specific problem: binding a container when I'm
an unprivileged user. I was thinking of persuading mount to do it, but
unshare could as well, provided it's setuid root. I'm leery of
proliferating setuid root binaries, which is why I was looking at
mount, but I could easily (more easily than mount) make unshare do it
if that's preferred.
James
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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>
Cc: Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
util-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: bind mounting namespace inodes for unprivileged users
Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 09:16:42 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1462367802.14310.41.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160504084403.7z67paycj663lkbt@ws.net.home>
On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 10:44 +0200, Karel Zak wrote:
> On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 02:20:56PM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> > Right at the moment, unprivileged users cannot call mount --bind to
> > create a permanent copy of any of their namespaces. This is
> > annoying
> > because it means that for entry to long running containers you have
> > to
> > spawn an undying process and use nsenter via the /proc/<pid>/ns
> > files.
>
> Well, unshare is able to create permanent namespaces and the bind
> mounts and nsenter is able to follow these files, but you need root
> permissions to create this stuff.
>
> touch /home/kzak/ns
> sudo unshare --uts=/home/kzak/ns
> <exit namespace>
>
> sudo nsenter --uts=/home/kzak/ns
>
> it means you really do not need any process in the namespace.
Yes, I do this when I'm root.
> Not sure about unprivileged users, it always sounds like a game with
> Pandora's box ;-)
But that's currently my specific problem: binding a container when I'm
an unprivileged user. I was thinking of persuading mount to do it, but
unshare could as well, provided it's setuid root. I'm leery of
proliferating setuid root binaries, which is why I was looking at
mount, but I could easily (more easily than mount) make unshare do it
if that's preferred.
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-05-04 13:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-03 18:20 bind mounting namespace inodes for unprivileged users James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1462299656.16133.51.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-03 21:22 ` Serge Hallyn
2016-05-04 8:44 ` Karel Zak
2016-05-04 8:44 ` Karel Zak
[not found] ` <20160504084403.7z67paycj663lkbt-xkT7n84Rsxv/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-04 13:16 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2016-05-04 13:16 ` James Bottomley
2016-05-04 14:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-05-04 14:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87oa8lc2ic.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-04 17:28 ` James Bottomley
2016-05-04 17:28 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1462382890.14310.67.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-04 17:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-05-04 17:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-05-04 18:00 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <87futx3eid.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-04 18:00 ` James Bottomley
2016-05-03 21:22 ` Serge Hallyn
2016-05-04 11:15 ` James Bottomley
2016-05-04 11:15 ` James Bottomley
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2016-05-03 18:20 James Bottomley
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