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* [off-list] a path toward killing thread_info
@ 2016-06-17 22:41 Andy Lutomirski
  2016-06-17 23:04 ` Al Viro
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Andy Lutomirski @ 2016-06-17 22:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kees Cook, H. Peter Anvin, Peter Zijlstra,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar

https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/luto/linux.git/commit/?h=x86/vmap_stack&id=50d6cef284e80678c2065813b54bf525d1202d0f

It's fairly straightforward, it's arguably a cleanup, and, with it
applied, there are very few references to 'thread_info' left in the
core kernel at all.

PeterZ, I'm thinking of adding task_ti_flags_ptr to directly find the
ti flags word given a task_struct * so the scheduler can use it.  Does
that seem reasonable to you?

Ingo, lockdep tracks mutex owners by thread_info *.  Is there any good
reason for this?  Can I just use task_struct *?  If we do that, I
think thread_info will be *gone* from the core.

--Andy

-- 
Andy Lutomirski
AMA Capital Management, LLC

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* Re: [off-list] a path toward killing thread_info
  2016-06-17 22:41 [off-list] a path toward killing thread_info Andy Lutomirski
@ 2016-06-17 23:04 ` Al Viro
  2016-06-17 23:10   ` H. Peter Anvin
  2016-06-17 23:24   ` Andy Lutomirski
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Al Viro @ 2016-06-17 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andy Lutomirski
  Cc: Kees Cook, H. Peter Anvin, Peter Zijlstra,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 03:41:49PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:

> PeterZ, I'm thinking of adding task_ti_flags_ptr to directly find the
> ti flags word given a task_struct * so the scheduler can use it.  Does
> that seem reasonable to you?

What are you trying to do?  Merge task_struct and thread_info?

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* Re: [off-list] a path toward killing thread_info
  2016-06-17 23:04 ` Al Viro
@ 2016-06-17 23:10   ` H. Peter Anvin
  2016-06-17 23:23     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  2016-06-17 23:24   ` Andy Lutomirski
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: H. Peter Anvin @ 2016-06-17 23:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Al Viro, Andy Lutomirski
  Cc: Kees Cook, Peter Zijlstra, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar

On June 17, 2016 4:04:31 PM PDT, Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> wrote:
>On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 03:41:49PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>
>> PeterZ, I'm thinking of adding task_ti_flags_ptr to directly find the
>> ti flags word given a task_struct * so the scheduler can use it. 
>Does
>> that seem reasonable to you?
>
>What are you trying to do?  Merge task_struct and thread_info?

Yes.

I did a half-finished patchset to do this once, in that I defined accessor functions which used container_of instead of pointers on architectures where this merge was enabled.
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* Re: [off-list] a path toward killing thread_info
  2016-06-17 23:10   ` H. Peter Anvin
@ 2016-06-17 23:23     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  2016-06-18  0:02       ` H. Peter Anvin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt @ 2016-06-17 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: H. Peter Anvin, Al Viro, Andy Lutomirski
  Cc: Kees Cook, Peter Zijlstra, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar

On Fri, 2016-06-17 at 16:10 -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> 
> Yes.
> 
> I did a half-finished patchset to do this once, in that I defined
> accessor functions which used container_of instead of pointers on
> architectures where this merge was enabled.

How do you get to "current" in that case ? A normal per-cpu ?

Cheers,
Ben.

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* Re: [off-list] a path toward killing thread_info
  2016-06-17 23:04 ` Al Viro
  2016-06-17 23:10   ` H. Peter Anvin
@ 2016-06-17 23:24   ` Andy Lutomirski
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Andy Lutomirski @ 2016-06-17 23:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Al Viro
  Cc: Kees Cook, H. Peter Anvin, Peter Zijlstra,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 03:41:49PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>
>> PeterZ, I'm thinking of adding task_ti_flags_ptr to directly find the
>> ti flags word given a task_struct * so the scheduler can use it.  Does
>> that seem reasonable to you?
>
> What are you trying to do?  Merge task_struct and thread_info?

Merge thread_struct and thread_info, actually.  The only functional
thing that thread_info provides is a place for arches to stash stuff.
I also want to end the era of stack overflows smashing data structures
at a fixed offset.

If we kill thread_info (on x86, anyway) and enable virtually mapped
stacks (which I just emailed out v2 of), then a stack overflow will
just OOPS cleanly on x86 without clobbering anything.

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* Re: [off-list] a path toward killing thread_info
  2016-06-17 23:23     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
@ 2016-06-18  0:02       ` H. Peter Anvin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: H. Peter Anvin @ 2016-06-18  0:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt, Al Viro, Andy Lutomirski
  Cc: Kees Cook, Peter Zijlstra, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar

On June 17, 2016 4:23:19 PM PDT, Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
>On Fri, 2016-06-17 at 16:10 -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> 
>> Yes.
>> 
>> I did a half-finished patchset to do this once, in that I defined
>> accessor functions which used container_of instead of pointers on
>> architectures where this merge was enabled.
>
>How do you get to "current" in that case ? A normal per-cpu ?
>
>Cheers,
>Ben.

Yes.  We already do that on x86-64 at least.
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