From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: RFC: documentation of the autogroup feature
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 12:39:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1479901185.4306.38.camel@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41d802dc-873a-ff02-17ff-93ce50f3e925@gmail.com>
On Tue, 2016-11-22 at 16:59 +0100, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> ┌─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
> │FIXME │
> ├─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤
> │The following is a little vague. Does it need to be │
> │made more precise? │
> └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
> The CFS scheduler employs an algorithm that distributes the CPU
> across task groups. As a result of this algorithm, the pro‐
> cesses in task groups that contain multiple CPU-intensive pro‐
> cesses are in effect disfavored by the scheduler.
Mmmm, they're actually equalized (modulo smp fairness goop), but I see
what you mean.
> A process's autogroup (task group) membership can be viewed via
> the file /proc/[pid]/autogroup:
>
> $ cat /proc/1/autogroup
> /autogroup-1 nice 0
>
> This file can also be used to modify the CPU bandwidth allo‐
> cated to a task group. This is done by writing a number in the
> "nice" range to the file to set the task group's nice value.
> The allowed range is from +19 (low priority) to -20 (high pri‐
> ority). Note that all values in this range cause a task group
> to be further disfavored by the scheduler, with -20 resulting
> in the scheduler mildy disfavoring the task group and +19
> greatly disfavoring it.
Group nice levels exactly work the same as task nice levels, ie
negative nice increases share, positive nice decreases it relative to
the default nice 0.
> ┌─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
> │FIXME │
> ├─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤
> │Regarding the previous paragraph... My tests indi‐ │
> │cate that writing *any* value to the autogroup file │
> │causes the task group to get a lower priority.
(patchlet.. I'd prefer to whack the knob, but like the on/off switch,
it may be in use, so I guess we're stuck with it)
> ┌─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
> │FIXME │
> ├─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤
> │Is the following correct? Does the statement need to │
> │be more precise? (E.g., in precisely which circum‐ │
> │stances does the use of cgroups override autogroup?) │
> └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
> The use of the cgroups(7) CPU controller overrides the effect
> of autogrouping.
Correct, autogroup defers to cgroups. Perhaps mention that moving a
task back to the root task group will result in the autogroup again
taking effect.
> ┌─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
> │FIXME │
> ├─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤
> │What needs to be said about autogroup and real-time │
> │tasks? │
> └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
That it does not group realtime tasks, they are auto-deflected to the
root task group.
-Mike
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-22 15:59 RFC: documentation of the autogroup feature Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-23 10:33 ` [patch] sched/autogroup: Fix 64bit kernel nice adjustment Mike Galbraith
[not found] ` <1479897217.4306.6.camel-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-23 13:47 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-23 13:47 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <d21cf0b2-5c62-5a49-8758-58793c454cc2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-23 14:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-11-23 14:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-11-23 14:20 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <34cea28b-c8c7-31e3-e920-90f113d22abe-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-23 15:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-11-23 15:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-11-24 6:24 ` [tip:sched/urgent] sched/autogroup: Fix 64-bit kernel nice level adjustment tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2016-11-24 6:24 ` tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2016-11-23 11:39 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
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2016-11-23 13:54 ` RFC: documentation of the autogroup feature Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-23 13:54 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <327586fa-4672-d070-0ded-850654586273-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-23 15:33 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-11-23 15:33 ` Mike Galbraith
[not found] ` <1479915229.4306.106.camel-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-23 16:04 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-23 16:04 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-23 17:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-11-24 21:41 ` RFC: documentation of the autogroup feature [v2] Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-25 12:52 ` Afzal Mohammed
2016-11-25 13:04 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-25 13:04 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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2016-11-25 13:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-11-25 13:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-11-25 15:04 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-25 15:51 ` Mike Galbraith
[not found] ` <1480089063.4075.80.camel-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-25 16:08 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-25 16:08 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <d3d491d3-0770-d017-4f3c-43d88346835c-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-25 16:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-25 16:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
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2016-11-25 16:34 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-25 16:34 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <2cc53b76-668b-edf1-6aa7-e6cb5a9801e1-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-25 20:54 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-25 20:54 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <af075c46-152a-0392-d33f-c7956d3c8a0b-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-25 21:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-25 21:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
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2016-11-29 7:43 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-29 7:43 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <755aba1b-9bf4-0277-0628-b27e725ee2f9-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29 11:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-29 11:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
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2016-11-29 13:44 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-29 13:44 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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2016-11-25 15:48 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-25 15:48 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-25 16:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-25 16:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
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2016-11-25 16:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-25 16:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-25 16:33 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-25 16:33 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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2016-11-25 22:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-25 22:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-23 16:05 ` RFC: documentation of the autogroup feature Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-23 16:05 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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2016-11-23 17:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-11-23 17:19 ` Mike Galbraith
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2016-11-23 22:12 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-23 22:12 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-27 21:13 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-27 21:13 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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2016-11-28 1:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-11-28 1:46 ` Mike Galbraith
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2016-11-29 9:10 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-29 9:10 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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2016-11-29 13:46 ` Mike Galbraith
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