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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, "Dmitry Vyukov" <dvyukov@google.com>,
	"Ian Kent" <raven@themaw.net>, "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
	"Kostya Serebryany" <kcc@google.com>,
	"Alexander Potapenko" <glider@google.com>,
	"Sasha Levin" <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: fs: NULL deref in atime_needs_update
Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 13:43:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <14804.1456753436@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160229130924.GV17997@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> David, Linus, do you see any problems with that?  To me it looks saner
> that way and as cheap as the current code, but I might be missing something 
> here...

You're effectively converting to this:

	read d_seq.sequence
	smp_rmb()
	read d_inode, d_flags
	smp_rmb()
	check d_seq.sequence

in the read path and this:

	write d_seq.sequence
	smp_wmb()
	write d_inode, d_flags
	smp_wmb()
	write d_seq.sequence

This should work - especially if we're wangling these sequence points anyway,
and so have to pay the barrier penalties whatever.  In fact, you actually take
a barrier out, I think.

I have had a problem with getting the ordering of d_inode and d_flags right
because of __d_clear_type_and_inode() where we're required to unset a dentry
so that it can be repurposed[*] as a negative dentry rather than replacing it.

This is something we for performance sake - and it's something we can only do
if the dentry isn't referenced, whereas if we properly followed the RCU model,
we would have to wait a grace period after delisting an unlinked dentry before
we could repurpose it - but that significantly slows down rename, unlink and
rmdir.

[*] Al and I disagree on whether this is a reuse or merely a change of state.

David

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-29 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-05 21:11 fs: NULL deref in atime_needs_update Dmitry Vyukov
2016-02-16 23:40 ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-02-19 19:32   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-02-20  3:21     ` Al Viro
2016-02-20  3:54       ` Al Viro
2016-02-20  3:54         ` Al Viro
2016-02-20 13:25         ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-02-20 17:10           ` Al Viro
2016-02-20 17:10             ` Al Viro
2016-02-20 20:26             ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-02-20 20:50               ` Al Viro
2016-02-20 20:50                 ` Al Viro
2016-02-22 11:20             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-02-22 17:23               ` Al Viro
2016-02-23 15:34                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-02-23 18:17                   ` Al Viro
2016-02-20 10:36       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-02-24  3:12   ` Ian Kent
2016-02-24  4:46     ` Al Viro
2016-02-24  4:46       ` Al Viro
2016-02-24 10:03       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-02-24 10:15         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-02-24 13:35           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-02-24 15:15             ` Al Viro
2016-02-25  8:29               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-02-25 16:39                 ` Al Viro
2016-02-26 21:21                   ` Al Viro
2016-02-26 21:25                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-02-26 22:07                       ` Al Viro
2016-02-26 22:07                         ` Al Viro
2016-02-27 22:27                         ` Al Viro
2016-02-27 22:27                           ` Al Viro
2016-02-28 15:43                           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-02-28 16:04                             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-02-28 17:01                               ` Al Viro
2016-02-28 20:01                                 ` Al Viro
2016-02-29  9:38                                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-02-29 12:34                                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-02-29 16:11                                       ` Al Viro
2016-02-29 13:09                                   ` Al Viro
2016-02-29 13:43                                     ` David Howells [this message]
2016-02-29 15:54                                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-02-29 16:19                                       ` Al Viro
2016-02-29 18:19                                         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-03-01  8:59                                           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-02-29 16:45                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-02-29 16:50                                       ` Al Viro
2016-02-29 17:20                                         ` Al Viro
2016-02-29 17:24                                         ` Linus Torvalds

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