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From: Daniel Micay <danielmicay@gmail.com>
To: Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>
Cc: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Reid Kleckner <rnk@google.com>,
	Peter Collingbourne <pcc@google.com>,
	eugenis@google.com
Subject: Re: binfmt_elf: use ELF_ET_DYN_BASE only for PIE breaks asan
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2017 14:45:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1502131556.1803.10.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1502131092.1803.8.camel@gmail.com>

> There are currently other issues. Try:
> 
> sysctl vm.mmap_rnd_bits=32
> sysctl vm.mmap_rnd_compat_bits=16
> 
> IIRC that breaks some sanitizers at least for 32-bit executables.

Also, stack mapping rand isn't yet tied to that sysctl but is rather
hard-wired to 11 bits on 32-bit and 20 bits (IIRC) on 64-bit. Once it's
tied to the sysctl (or a different sysctl, if keeping the same defaults
is desired) that will be able to use significantly more address space.

It might be setting it to the maximum + better stack rand that breaks
sanitizers, rather than just setting the entropy higher.

If anyone wants to test some other changes though...

https://github.com/copperhead/linux-hardened/commit/31ebed471d31a437cc551b1bfae03c9e7f58117d.patch
https://github.com/copperhead/linux-hardened/commit/073329e7b541b89172833f61fb84d81f32389d6e.patch

They haven't been submitted for inclusion upstream, but that's the plan:
reaching parity with the ASLR PaX has provided for years when the
entropy values are set to max.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-07 18:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-07 17:24 binfmt_elf: use ELF_ET_DYN_BASE only for PIE breaks asan Dmitry Vyukov
2017-08-07 17:33 ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 17:33 ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 18:26   ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 18:36     ` Evgenii Stepanov
2017-08-07 18:40       ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 18:51         ` Evgenii Stepanov
2017-08-07 18:57           ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 19:03             ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 19:06               ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 19:10                 ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 19:24               ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 19:32                 ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 19:12             ` Evgenii Stepanov
2017-08-07 18:38     ` Daniel Micay
2017-08-07 18:45       ` Daniel Micay [this message]
2017-08-07 18:39     ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 18:48       ` Daniel Micay
2017-08-07 18:52         ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 18:56           ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 18:59             ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 19:01               ` Daniel Micay
2017-08-07 19:05               ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 19:12                 ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 19:16                   ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 19:21                     ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 19:26                       ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 19:34                         ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 19:40                           ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 19:42                             ` Daniel Micay
2017-08-07 19:46                             ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 18:21 ` Daniel Micay

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