From: Daniel Micay <danielmicay@gmail.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>, Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>
Cc: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Reid Kleckner <rnk@google.com>,
Peter Collingbourne <pcc@google.com>,
Evgeniy Stepanov <eugenis@google.com>
Subject: Re: binfmt_elf: use ELF_ET_DYN_BASE only for PIE breaks asan
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2017 14:48:59 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1502131739.1803.12.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jLRG6Xee-dJGPwmbfcVFLuTP9+5mexJyvZamQQdSaHNtA@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 11:39 -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>
> wrote:
> > +eugenis@ for msan
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com
> > > > wrote:
> > > > The recent "binfmt_elf: use ELF_ET_DYN_BASE only for PIE" patch:
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/eab09532d40090698b05a07
> > > > c1c87f39fdbc5fab5
> > > > breaks user-space AddressSanitizer. AddressSanitizer makes
> > > > assumptions
> > > > about address space layout for substantial performance gains.
> > > > There
> > > > are multiple people complaining about this already:
> > > > https://github.com/google/sanitizers/issues/837
> > > > https://twitter.com/kayseesee/status/894594085608013825
> > > > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196537
> > > > AddressSanitizer maps shadow memory at [0x00007fff7000-
> > > > 0x10007fff7fff]
> > > > expecting that non-pie binaries will be below 2GB and pie
> > > > binaries/modules will be at 0x55 or 0x7f. This is not the first
> > > > time
> > > > kernel address space shuffling breaks sanitizers. The last one
> > > > was the
> > > > move to 0x55.
> > >
> > > What are the requirements for 32-bit and 64-bit memory layouts for
> > > ASan currently, so we can adjust the ET_DYN base to work with
> > > existing
> > > ASan?
> >
> >
> > 32-bit asan shadow is 0x20000000 - 0x40000000
> >
> > % clang -fsanitize=address dummy.c -m32 && ASAN_OPTIONS=verbosity=1
> > ./a.out
> > 2>&1 | grep '||'
> > > > `[0x40000000, 0xffffffff]` || HighMem ||
> > > > `[0x28000000, 0x3fffffff]` || HighShadow ||
> > > > `[0x24000000, 0x27ffffff]` || ShadowGap ||
> > > > `[0x20000000, 0x23ffffff]` || LowShadow ||
> > > > `[0x00000000, 0x1fffffff]` || LowMem ||
> >
> > %
>
> For 32-bit, it looks like the new PIE base is fine, yes? 0x000400000UL
Need to consider the ASLR shift which is up to 1M with a default kernel
configuration but up to 256M with the maximum configurable entropy.
On 64-bit, it's a lot larger... and the goal is also tying the stack
base to that so that's a further significant change, increasing the
address space used when the maximum configurable entropy is used.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-07 18:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-07 17:24 binfmt_elf: use ELF_ET_DYN_BASE only for PIE breaks asan Dmitry Vyukov
2017-08-07 17:33 ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 17:33 ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 18:26 ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 18:36 ` Evgenii Stepanov
2017-08-07 18:40 ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 18:51 ` Evgenii Stepanov
2017-08-07 18:57 ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 19:03 ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 19:06 ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 19:10 ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 19:24 ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 19:32 ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 19:12 ` Evgenii Stepanov
2017-08-07 18:38 ` Daniel Micay
2017-08-07 18:45 ` Daniel Micay
2017-08-07 18:39 ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 18:48 ` Daniel Micay [this message]
2017-08-07 18:52 ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 18:56 ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 18:59 ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 19:01 ` Daniel Micay
2017-08-07 19:05 ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 19:12 ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 19:16 ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 19:21 ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 19:26 ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 19:34 ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 19:40 ` Kostya Serebryany
2017-08-07 19:42 ` Daniel Micay
2017-08-07 19:46 ` Kees Cook
2017-08-07 18:21 ` Daniel Micay
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