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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mhocko@kernel.org,
	mike.kravetz@oracle.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, fweimer@redhat.com,
	colm@allcosts.net, keescook@chromium.org, luto@amacapital.net,
	wad@chromium.org, mingo@kernel.org, kirill@shutemov.name,
	dave.hansen@intel.com, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, willy@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm,fork: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 12:28:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1503073709.6577.68.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170817155033.172cf22ec143713d5cf98b4e@linux-foundation.org>

On Thu, 2017-08-17 at 15:50 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 22:18:19 -0400 Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > > > --- a/mm/madvise.c
> > > > +++ b/mm/madvise.c
> > > > @@ -80,6 +80,17 @@ static long madvise_behavior(struct
> > > > vm_area_struct *vma,
> > > > __		}
> > > > __		new_flags &= ~VM_DONTCOPY;
> > > > __		break;
> > > > +	case MADV_WIPEONFORK:
> > > > +		/* MADV_WIPEONFORK is only supported on
> > > > anonymous
> > > > memory. */
> > > > +		if (vma->vm_file || vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED)
> > > > {
> > > > +			error = -EINVAL;
> > > > +			goto out;
> > > > +		}
> > > > +		new_flags |= VM_WIPEONFORK;
> > > > +		break;
> > > > +	case MADV_KEEPONFORK:
> > > > +		new_flags &= ~VM_WIPEONFORK;
> > > > +		break;
> > > > __	case MADV_DONTDUMP:
> > > > __		new_flags |= VM_DONTDUMP;
> > > > __		break;
> > > 
> > > It seems odd to permit MADV_KEEPONFORK against other-than-anon
> > > vmas?
> > 
> > Given that the only way to set VM_WIPEONFORK is through
> > MADV_WIPEONFORK, calling MADV_KEEPONFORK on an
> > other-than-anon vma would be equivalent to a noop.
> > 
> > If new_flags == vma->vm_flags, madvise_behavior() will
> > immediately exit.
> 
> Yes, but calling MADV_WIPEONFORK against an other-than-anon vma is
> presumably a userspace bug.  A bug which will probably result in
> userspace having WIPEONFORK memory which it didn't want.  The kernel
> can trivially tell userspace that it has this bug so why not do so?

Uh, what?

Calling MADV_WIPEONFORK on an other-than-anon vma results
in NOT getting VM_WIPEONFORK semantics on that VMA.

The code you are commenting on is the bit that CLEARS
the VM_WIPEONFORK code, not the bit where it gets set.

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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mhocko@kernel.org,
	mike.kravetz@oracle.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, fweimer@redhat.com,
	colm@allcosts.net, keescook@chromium.org, luto@amacapital.net,
	wad@chromium.org, mingo@kernel.org, kirill@shutemov.name,
	dave.hansen@intel.com, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, willy@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm,fork: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 12:28:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1503073709.6577.68.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170817155033.172cf22ec143713d5cf98b4e@linux-foundation.org>

On Thu, 2017-08-17 at 15:50 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 22:18:19 -0400 Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > > > --- a/mm/madvise.c
> > > > +++ b/mm/madvise.c
> > > > @@ -80,6 +80,17 @@ static long madvise_behavior(struct
> > > > vm_area_struct *vma,
> > > > __		}
> > > > __		new_flags &= ~VM_DONTCOPY;
> > > > __		break;
> > > > +	case MADV_WIPEONFORK:
> > > > +		/* MADV_WIPEONFORK is only supported on
> > > > anonymous
> > > > memory. */
> > > > +		if (vma->vm_file || vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED)
> > > > {
> > > > +			error = -EINVAL;
> > > > +			goto out;
> > > > +		}
> > > > +		new_flags |= VM_WIPEONFORK;
> > > > +		break;
> > > > +	case MADV_KEEPONFORK:
> > > > +		new_flags &= ~VM_WIPEONFORK;
> > > > +		break;
> > > > __	case MADV_DONTDUMP:
> > > > __		new_flags |= VM_DONTDUMP;
> > > > __		break;
> > > 
> > > It seems odd to permit MADV_KEEPONFORK against other-than-anon
> > > vmas?
> > 
> > Given that the only way to set VM_WIPEONFORK is through
> > MADV_WIPEONFORK, calling MADV_KEEPONFORK on an
> > other-than-anon vma would be equivalent to a noop.
> > 
> > If new_flags == vma->vm_flags, madvise_behavior() will
> > immediately exit.
> 
> Yes, but calling MADV_WIPEONFORK against an other-than-anon vma is
> presumably a userspace bug.A A A bug which will probably result in
> userspace having WIPEONFORK memory which it didn't want.A A The kernel
> can trivially tell userspace that it has this bug so why not do so?

Uh, what?

Calling MADV_WIPEONFORK on an other-than-anon vma results
in NOT getting VM_WIPEONFORK semantics on that VMA.

The code you are commenting on is the bit that CLEARS
the VM_WIPEONFORK code, not the bit where it gets set.

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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mhocko@kernel.org,
	mike.kravetz@oracle.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, fweimer@redhat.com,
	colm@allcosts.net, keescook@chromium.org, luto@amacapital.net,
	wad@chromium.org, mingo@kernel.org, kirill@shutemov.name,
	dave.hansen@intel.com, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, willy@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm,fork: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 12:28:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1503073709.6577.68.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170817155033.172cf22ec143713d5cf98b4e@linux-foundation.org>

On Thu, 2017-08-17 at 15:50 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 22:18:19 -0400 Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > > > --- a/mm/madvise.c
> > > > +++ b/mm/madvise.c
> > > > @@ -80,6 +80,17 @@ static long madvise_behavior(struct
> > > > vm_area_struct *vma,
> > > > __		}
> > > > __		new_flags &= ~VM_DONTCOPY;
> > > > __		break;
> > > > +	case MADV_WIPEONFORK:
> > > > +		/* MADV_WIPEONFORK is only supported on
> > > > anonymous
> > > > memory. */
> > > > +		if (vma->vm_file || vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED)
> > > > {
> > > > +			error = -EINVAL;
> > > > +			goto out;
> > > > +		}
> > > > +		new_flags |= VM_WIPEONFORK;
> > > > +		break;
> > > > +	case MADV_KEEPONFORK:
> > > > +		new_flags &= ~VM_WIPEONFORK;
> > > > +		break;
> > > > __	case MADV_DONTDUMP:
> > > > __		new_flags |= VM_DONTDUMP;
> > > > __		break;
> > > 
> > > It seems odd to permit MADV_KEEPONFORK against other-than-anon
> > > vmas?
> > 
> > Given that the only way to set VM_WIPEONFORK is through
> > MADV_WIPEONFORK, calling MADV_KEEPONFORK on an
> > other-than-anon vma would be equivalent to a noop.
> > 
> > If new_flags == vma->vm_flags, madvise_behavior() will
> > immediately exit.
> 
> Yes, but calling MADV_WIPEONFORK against an other-than-anon vma is
> presumably a userspace bug.  A bug which will probably result in
> userspace having WIPEONFORK memory which it didn't want.  The kernel
> can trivially tell userspace that it has this bug so why not do so?

Uh, what?

Calling MADV_WIPEONFORK on an other-than-anon vma results
in NOT getting VM_WIPEONFORK semantics on that VMA.

The code you are commenting on is the bit that CLEARS
the VM_WIPEONFORK code, not the bit where it gets set.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-18 16:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-11 21:28 [PATCH v4 0/2] mm,fork,security: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK riel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA
2017-08-11 21:28 ` riel
2017-08-11 21:28 ` riel
2017-08-11 21:28 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86,mpx: make mpx depend on x86-64 to free up VMA flag riel
2017-08-11 21:28   ` riel
2017-08-11 21:28 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,fork: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK riel
2017-08-11 21:28   ` riel
2017-08-15 22:51   ` Andrew Morton
2017-08-15 22:51     ` Andrew Morton
2017-08-16  2:18     ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-16  2:18       ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-16  2:18       ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-17 22:50       ` Andrew Morton
2017-08-17 22:50         ` Andrew Morton
2017-08-18 16:28         ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2017-08-18 16:28           ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-18 16:28           ` Rik van Riel
     [not found]           ` <1503073709.6577.68.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-18 18:15             ` Andrew Morton
2017-08-18 18:15               ` Andrew Morton
2017-08-18 18:15               ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]               ` <20170818111545.ab371cfedb71d13d76590030-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-19  0:02                 ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-19  0:02                   ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-19  0:02                   ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-18 17:25   ` Mike Kravetz
2017-08-18 17:25     ` Mike Kravetz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-08-11 19:19 [PATCH v3 0/2] mm,fork,security: " riel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA
2017-08-11 19:19 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,fork: " riel
2017-08-11 19:19   ` riel
2017-08-11 19:19   ` riel
     [not found]   ` <20170811191942.17487-3-riel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-11 19:42     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-11 19:42       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-11 19:42       ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]       ` <CA+55aFzA+7CeCdUi-13DfOeE3FfhtTPMMmBA4UQx8FixXiD4YA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-11 20:27         ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-11 20:27           ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-11 20:27           ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-11 20:50           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-11 20:50             ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-06 14:04 [PATCH v2 0/2] mm,fork,security: " riel
2017-08-06 14:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,fork: " riel
2017-08-06 14:04   ` riel
2017-08-10 15:23   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-10 15:23     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 15:23     ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-11 15:23       ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-11 16:36       ` Mike Kravetz
2017-08-11 16:36         ` Mike Kravetz
2017-08-11 16:59         ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-11 16:59           ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-11 17:07           ` Mike Kravetz
2017-08-11 17:07             ` Mike Kravetz
2017-08-04 19:07 [PATCH 0/2] mm,fork,security: " riel
2017-08-04 19:07 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,fork: " riel
2017-08-04 19:07   ` riel
2017-08-04 23:09   ` Mike Kravetz
2017-08-04 23:09     ` Mike Kravetz
2017-08-05 14:05     ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-05 14:05       ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-14 15:45   ` kbuild test robot
2017-08-04 19:01 [PATCH 0/2] mm,fork: MADV_WIPEONFORK - an empty VMA in the child riel
2017-08-04 19:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,fork: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK riel
2017-08-05 18:46   ` kbuild test robot
2017-08-05 19:33   ` kbuild test robot

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