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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: seabios <seabios@seabios.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] seabios serial console vs. sgabios
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2017 11:43:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1509705781.31823.18.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171103101055.GD20155@redhat.com>

  Hi,

> > Hmm, why?  The user asked for a serial console.  Whenever that is
> > provided by seabios builtin support or the sgabios rom doesn't
> > really
> > matter, no?
> 
> Surely it has ABI implications for the guest if we stop putting the
> sgabios option ROM into memory - changing layout of ROMS

Because of that changing -device sga behavior on the qemu side must be
tied to the qemu machine type.

> > Also, the question is what seabios should do in case both are
> > active. 
> > Which I think can happen today with libvirt if you configure a
> > virtual
> > machine without vga (libvirt passes -machine graphics=off which
> > activates builtin serial console) and with "<bios
> > useserial='yes'/>"
> > (enables sgabios rom).
> 
> Libvirt doesn't use  '-machine graphics=off' AFAIK, only '-
> nographic'.

I think that is pretty much the same.  Setting "graphichs=off" is one
of the effects of passing -nographic, and the other effects (like
setting up default serial + monitor in a different way) don't happen
due to libvirt also using -nodefaults.

cheers,
  Gerd

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-03 10:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-02 16:04 [Qemu-devel] seabios serial console vs. sgabios Gerd Hoffmann
2017-11-02 16:11 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-11-02 16:13   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-11-03  6:49   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-11-03 10:10     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-11-03 10:43       ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2017-11-06  6:09         ` Markus Armbruster
2017-11-03 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " Kevin O'Connor

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