From: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Max Staudt <mstaudt@suse.de>
Cc: michal@markovi.net, b.zolnierkie@samsung.com,
Michal Srb <MSrb@suse.com>, Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@suse.com>,
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/14] Kernel based bootsplash
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2017 12:36:16 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1510230976.2975.10.camel@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171109115655.GA18436@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
Am Donnerstag, den 09.11.2017, 12:56 +0100 schrieb Pavel Machek:
>
> "More reliable bootsplash" seems like an anti-goal. More reliable boot
> should be the goal...
>
> You should be able to display nice splash screen from initrd...
>
> We may want to fix the blinking cursor.
>
> But if there are warnings, it is better to see the warnings then to
> hide them. If root filesystem can't be mounted (for example) it is
> good to know the reason, not to stare at the blank screen (or at boot splash).
Hi,
well you are not required to use a boot splash. Though I note that
many people want a boot splash. However, if you use a boot splash
at all, you will not see the messages, so how does it matter to you
if it comes out of the initrd?
And of course we want a reliable boot, but that is an orthogonal issue.
And this solution is more reliable than plymouth.
Regards
Oliver
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From: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Max Staudt <mstaudt@suse.de>
Cc: michal@markovi.net, b.zolnierkie@samsung.com,
Michal Srb <MSrb@suse.com>, Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@suse.com>,
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/14] Kernel based bootsplash
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2017 13:36:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1510230976.2975.10.camel@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171109115655.GA18436@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
Am Donnerstag, den 09.11.2017, 12:56 +0100 schrieb Pavel Machek:
>
> "More reliable bootsplash" seems like an anti-goal. More reliable boot
> should be the goal...
>
> You should be able to display nice splash screen from initrd...
>
> We may want to fix the blinking cursor.
>
> But if there are warnings, it is better to see the warnings then to
> hide them. If root filesystem can't be mounted (for example) it is
> good to know the reason, not to stare at the blank screen (or at boot splash).
Hi,
well you are not required to use a boot splash. Though I note that
many people want a boot splash. However, if you use a boot splash
at all, you will not see the messages, so how does it matter to you
if it comes out of the initrd?
And of course we want a reliable boot, but that is an orthogonal issue.
And this solution is more reliable than plymouth.
Regards
Oliver
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-09 12:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-25 12:45 [RFC 00/14] Kernel based bootsplash Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` [RFC 01/14] bootsplash: Initial implementation showing black screen Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-25 17:26 ` Randy Dunlap
2017-10-25 17:26 ` Randy Dunlap
2017-10-25 12:45 ` [RFC 02/14] bootsplash: Add platform device Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` [RFC 03/14] bootsplash: Flush framebuffer after drawing Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` [RFC 04/14] bootsplash: Redraw on suspend/hibernate Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` [RFC 05/14] bootsplash: Disable splash on oops Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` [RFC 06/14] bootsplash: Disable on SysRq SAK Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` [RFC 07/14] bootsplash: Add VT keyboard hook Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` [RFC 08/14] bootsplash: Add file reading and picture rendering Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-25 17:32 ` Randy Dunlap
2017-10-25 17:32 ` Randy Dunlap
2017-10-25 20:27 ` Takashi Iwai
2017-10-25 20:27 ` Takashi Iwai
2017-10-27 11:21 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-27 11:21 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` [RFC 09/14] bootsplash: Add corner positioning Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` [RFC 10/14] bootsplash: Add animation support Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-25 17:20 ` Randy Dunlap
2017-10-25 17:20 ` Randy Dunlap
2017-10-25 17:23 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-25 17:23 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` [RFC 11/14] bootsplash: Redraw fully on console_unblank Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:45 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:46 ` [RFC 12/14] bootsplash: Add sysfs ABI documentation Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:46 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:46 ` [RFC 13/14] bootsplash: Add main documentation Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:46 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-25 17:43 ` Randy Dunlap
2017-10-25 17:43 ` Randy Dunlap
2017-10-27 11:19 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-27 11:19 ` Max Staudt
2017-10-27 16:48 ` Randy Dunlap
2017-10-27 16:48 ` Randy Dunlap
2017-10-25 12:46 ` [RFC 14/14] bootsplash: Update MAINTAINERS Max Staudt
2017-10-25 12:46 ` Max Staudt
2017-11-09 11:56 ` [RFC 00/14] Kernel based bootsplash Pavel Machek
2017-11-09 11:56 ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-09 12:36 ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2017-11-09 12:36 ` Oliver Neukum
2017-11-09 18:45 ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-09 18:45 ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-10 16:53 ` Takashi Iwai
2017-11-10 16:53 ` Takashi Iwai
2017-11-09 12:42 ` Takashi Iwai
2017-11-09 12:42 ` Takashi Iwai
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