Using CONFIG_ARM_APPENDED_DTB with multiple device trees

Using CONFIG_ARM_APPENDED_DTB with multiple device trees

[Chris Packham]

Hi,

We currently have several boards based around the 88f6281 (kirkwood) ARM 
CPU.

The boards all share a kernel image (currently 3.16 based but we're in 
the process of moving to 4.3). We use the machine id (and some other 
eeprom type information) to distinguish the boards.

We'd like to move to a device tree based model but we're restricted in 
that updating the bootloaders to a DT-aware u-boot is impractical. 
CONFIG_ARM_APPENDED_DTB allows us to append a device tree but we still 
need to account for the differences between the boards.

Is it possible to append several device trees and have the correct one 
selected based on mach-id? One alternative would be to have a lowest 
common denominator device tree and platform_data style initializations 
for the rest (which would kind of defeat the purpose of having a device 
tree). Or we could have a superset device tree with the nodes disabled 
and install fixups to enable them based on mach-id. Has anyone faced a 
similar situation?

Thanks,
Chris

Using CONFIG_ARM_APPENDED_DTB with multiple device trees

[Chris Packham]

Hi,

We currently have several boards based around the 88f6281 (kirkwood) ARM 
CPU.

The boards all share a kernel image (currently 3.16 based but we're in 
the process of moving to 4.3). We use the machine id (and some other 
eeprom type information) to distinguish the boards.

We'd like to move to a device tree based model but we're restricted in 
that updating the bootloaders to a DT-aware u-boot is impractical. 
CONFIG_ARM_APPENDED_DTB allows us to append a device tree but we still 
need to account for the differences between the boards.

Is it possible to append several device trees and have the correct one 
selected based on mach-id? One alternative would be to have a lowest 
common denominator device tree and platform_data style initializations 
for the rest (which would kind of defeat the purpose of having a device 
tree). Or we could have a superset device tree with the nodes disabled 
and install fixups to enable them based on mach-id. Has anyone faced a 
similar situation?

Thanks,
Chris
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Using CONFIG_ARM_APPENDED_DTB with multiple device trees

[Andrew Lunn]

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 03:27:15AM +0000, Chris Packham wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We currently have several boards based around the 88f6281 (kirkwood) ARM 
> CPU.
> 
> The boards all share a kernel image (currently 3.16 based but we're in 
> the process of moving to 4.3). We use the machine id (and some other 
> eeprom type information) to distinguish the boards.
> 
> We'd like to move to a device tree based model but we're restricted in 
> that updating the bootloaders to a DT-aware u-boot is impractical. 
> CONFIG_ARM_APPENDED_DTB allows us to append a device tree but we still 
> need to account for the differences between the boards.

Hi Chris

You might want to look at what Debian does. When installing the
kernel, it appends the correct DT blob depending on what the current
running kernel is, to the new kernel image before writing it to the
boot medium.

Another option is the pxa-impedance-matcher.

     Andrew

Re: Using CONFIG_ARM_APPENDED_DTB with multiple device trees

[Andrew Lunn]

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 03:27:15AM +0000, Chris Packham wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We currently have several boards based around the 88f6281 (kirkwood) ARM 
> CPU.
> 
> The boards all share a kernel image (currently 3.16 based but we're in 
> the process of moving to 4.3). We use the machine id (and some other 
> eeprom type information) to distinguish the boards.
> 
> We'd like to move to a device tree based model but we're restricted in 
> that updating the bootloaders to a DT-aware u-boot is impractical. 
> CONFIG_ARM_APPENDED_DTB allows us to append a device tree but we still 
> need to account for the differences between the boards.

Hi Chris

You might want to look at what Debian does. When installing the
kernel, it appends the correct DT blob depending on what the current
running kernel is, to the new kernel image before writing it to the
boot medium.

Another option is the pxa-impedance-matcher.

     Andrew
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Using CONFIG_ARM_APPENDED_DTB with multiple device trees

[Arnd Bergmann]

On Tuesday 20 October 2015 06:04:45 Andrew Lunn wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 03:27:15AM +0000, Chris Packham wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > We currently have several boards based around the 88f6281 (kirkwood) ARM 
> > CPU.
> > 
> > The boards all share a kernel image (currently 3.16 based but we're in 
> > the process of moving to 4.3). We use the machine id (and some other 
> > eeprom type information) to distinguish the boards.
> > 
> > We'd like to move to a device tree based model but we're restricted in 
> > that updating the bootloaders to a DT-aware u-boot is impractical. 
> > CONFIG_ARM_APPENDED_DTB allows us to append a device tree but we still 
> > need to account for the differences between the boards.
> 
> Hi Chris
> 
> You might want to look at what Debian does. When installing the
> kernel, it appends the correct DT blob depending on what the current
> running kernel is, to the new kernel image before writing it to the
> boot medium.
> 
> Another option is the pxa-impedance-matcher.
> 

Right, pxa-impedance-matcher is indeed meant to solve this. We intentionally
do not support CONFIG_ARM_APPENDED_DTB with multiple DT files so we get
people to eventually update their boot loaders to a version that
understands DT.

For modern systems, the part of the boot loader that knows about the
machine ID also knows about the DT.

	Arnd

Re: Using CONFIG_ARM_APPENDED_DTB with multiple device trees

[Arnd Bergmann]

On Tuesday 20 October 2015 06:04:45 Andrew Lunn wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 03:27:15AM +0000, Chris Packham wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > We currently have several boards based around the 88f6281 (kirkwood) ARM 
> > CPU.
> > 
> > The boards all share a kernel image (currently 3.16 based but we're in 
> > the process of moving to 4.3). We use the machine id (and some other 
> > eeprom type information) to distinguish the boards.
> > 
> > We'd like to move to a device tree based model but we're restricted in 
> > that updating the bootloaders to a DT-aware u-boot is impractical. 
> > CONFIG_ARM_APPENDED_DTB allows us to append a device tree but we still 
> > need to account for the differences between the boards.
> 
> Hi Chris
> 
> You might want to look at what Debian does. When installing the
> kernel, it appends the correct DT blob depending on what the current
> running kernel is, to the new kernel image before writing it to the
> boot medium.
> 
> Another option is the pxa-impedance-matcher.
> 

Right, pxa-impedance-matcher is indeed meant to solve this. We intentionally
do not support CONFIG_ARM_APPENDED_DTB with multiple DT files so we get
people to eventually update their boot loaders to a version that
understands DT.

For modern systems, the part of the boot loader that knows about the
machine ID also knows about the DT.

	Arnd
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