From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
hch@infradead.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
peterx@redhat.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V2 0/5] vhost: accelerate metadata access through vmap()
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 14:19:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1552425555.14432.14.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190312211117.GB25147@redhat.com>
I think we might be talking past each other. Let me try the double
flush first
On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 17:11 -0400, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 01:53:37PM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > Which means after we fix vhost to add the flush_dcache_page after
> > > kunmap, Parisc will get a double hit (but it also means Parisc
> > > was
> > > the only one of those archs needed explicit cache flushes, where
> > > vhost worked correctly so far.. so it kinds of proofs your point
> > > of
> > > giving up being the safe choice).
> >
> > What double hit? If there's no cache to flush then cache flush is
> > a no-op. It's also a highly piplineable no-op because the CPU has
> > the L1 cache within easy reach. The only event when flush takes a
> > large amount time is if we actually have dirty data to write back
> > to main memory.
>
> The double hit is in parisc copy_to_user_page:
>
> #define copy_to_user_page(vma, page, vaddr, dst, src, len) \
> do { \
> flush_cache_page(vma, vaddr, page_to_pfn(page)); \
> memcpy(dst, src, len); \
> flush_kernel_dcache_range_asm((unsigned long)dst, (unsigned
> long)dst + len); \
> } while (0)
>
> That is executed just before kunmap:
>
> static inline void kunmap(struct page *page)
> {
> flush_kernel_dcache_page_addr(page_address(page));
> }
I mean in the sequence
flush_dcache_page(page);
flush_dcache_page(page);
The first flush_dcache_page did all the work and the second it a
tightly pipelined no-op. That's what I mean by there not really being
a double hit.
James
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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterx@redhat.com,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, hch@infradead.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V2 0/5] vhost: accelerate metadata access through vmap()
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 14:19:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1552425555.14432.14.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190312211117.GB25147@redhat.com>
I think we might be talking past each other. Let me try the double
flush first
On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 17:11 -0400, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 01:53:37PM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > Which means after we fix vhost to add the flush_dcache_page after
> > > kunmap, Parisc will get a double hit (but it also means Parisc
> > > was
> > > the only one of those archs needed explicit cache flushes, where
> > > vhost worked correctly so far.. so it kinds of proofs your point
> > > of
> > > giving up being the safe choice).
> >
> > What double hit? If there's no cache to flush then cache flush is
> > a no-op. It's also a highly piplineable no-op because the CPU has
> > the L1 cache within easy reach. The only event when flush takes a
> > large amount time is if we actually have dirty data to write back
> > to main memory.
>
> The double hit is in parisc copy_to_user_page:
>
> #define copy_to_user_page(vma, page, vaddr, dst, src, len) \
> do { \
> flush_cache_page(vma, vaddr, page_to_pfn(page)); \
> memcpy(dst, src, len); \
> flush_kernel_dcache_range_asm((unsigned long)dst, (unsigned
> long)dst + len); \
> } while (0)
>
> That is executed just before kunmap:
>
> static inline void kunmap(struct page *page)
> {
> flush_kernel_dcache_page_addr(page_address(page));
> }
I mean in the sequence
flush_dcache_page(page);
flush_dcache_page(page);
The first flush_dcache_page did all the work and the second it a
tightly pipelined no-op. That's what I mean by there not really being
a double hit.
James
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2019-03-06 7:18 [RFC PATCH V2 0/5] vhost: accelerate metadata access through vmap() Jason Wang
2019-03-06 7:18 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-06 7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 1/5] vhost: generalize adding used elem Jason Wang
2019-03-06 7:18 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-06 7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 2/5] vhost: fine grain userspace memory accessors Jason Wang
2019-03-06 10:45 ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-03-07 2:38 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-07 2:38 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-06 10:45 ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-03-06 7:18 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-06 7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 3/5] vhost: rename vq_iotlb_prefetch() to vq_meta_prefetch() Jason Wang
2019-03-06 7:18 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-06 7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 4/5] vhost: introduce helpers to get the size of metadata area Jason Wang
2019-03-06 7:18 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-06 10:56 ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-03-06 10:56 ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-03-07 2:40 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-07 2:40 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-06 18:43 ` Souptick Joarder
2019-03-07 2:42 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-07 2:42 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-06 7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 5/5] vhost: access vq metadata through kernel virtual address Jason Wang
2019-03-06 16:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07 2:45 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-07 2:45 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-07 15:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07 15:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07 19:09 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-07 19:09 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-07 19:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-07 19:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-07 20:17 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-07 20:17 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-07 21:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08 9:13 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 19:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-11 7:21 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-11 7:21 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 19:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08 9:13 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-11 14:45 ` Jan Kara
2019-03-11 14:45 ` Jan Kara
2019-03-07 21:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08 8:31 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 8:31 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-06 16:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07 15:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07 15:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07 17:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07 19:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-07 19:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08 8:50 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 8:50 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 14:58 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08 14:58 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-11 7:18 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-11 7:18 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 19:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08 19:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08 20:06 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08 20:06 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-11 7:40 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-11 7:40 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-11 12:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-11 13:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-11 13:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 2:56 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 2:56 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 3:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12 3:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12 2:52 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 2:52 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 3:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12 7:15 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 7:15 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 3:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-11 12:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07 19:17 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08 2:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08 2:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08 2:55 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08 3:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08 3:40 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08 3:40 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08 3:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08 3:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08 3:45 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08 3:45 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08 9:15 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 9:15 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 3:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08 2:55 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08 8:58 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 12:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08 12:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08 15:02 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08 15:02 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08 19:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08 19:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08 8:58 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-07 19:17 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-07 17:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-06 7:18 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 14:12 ` [RFC PATCH V2 0/5] vhost: accelerate metadata access through vmap() Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-08 14:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-11 7:13 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-11 7:13 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-11 13:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-11 13:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-11 18:14 ` David Miller
2019-03-11 18:14 ` David Miller
2019-03-11 18:14 ` David Miller
2019-03-12 2:59 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 2:59 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 3:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12 3:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12 3:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12 7:17 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 7:17 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 11:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12 11:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12 11:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12 15:46 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 15:46 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 20:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 20:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 20:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 20:53 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 20:53 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 21:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 21:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 21:19 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2019-03-12 21:19 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 21:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 21:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 22:02 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 22:02 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 22:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 22:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 22:57 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 22:57 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 22:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 21:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 21:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-13 16:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-13 16:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-13 16:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-13 16:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-13 16:37 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-13 16:37 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-14 10:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-14 10:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-14 13:49 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-14 13:49 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-14 13:49 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-14 19:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-14 19:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-14 19:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-15 4:39 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-15 4:39 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-15 4:39 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-14 10:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12 7:17 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 5:14 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 5:14 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 7:51 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 7:51 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 7:51 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 7:53 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 7:53 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 7:53 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 2:59 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-11 13:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-11 7:13 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 14:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
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