From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
Erin Shepherd <erin.shepherd@e43.eu>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, stable <stable@kernel.org>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Shaohua Li <shli@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] exportfs: add flag to allow marking export operations as only supporting file handles
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2024 11:35:56 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <15628525-629f-49a4-a821-92092e2fa8cb@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxjcVuq+PCoMos5Vi=t_S1OgJEM5wQ6Za2Ue9_FOq31m9Q@mail.gmail.com>
On 12/9/24 11:30 AM, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 2:46 PM Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 09, 2024 at 09:58:58AM +0100, Amir Goldstein wrote:
>>> To be clear, exporting pidfs or internal shmem via an anonymous fd is
>>> probably not possible with existing userspace tools, but with all the new
>>> mount_fd and magic link apis, I can never be sure what can be made possible
>>> to achieve when the user holds an anonymous fd.
>>>
>>> The thinking behind adding the EXPORT_OP_LOCAL_FILE_HANDLE flag
>>> was that when kernfs/cgroups was added exportfs support with commit
>>> aa8188253474 ("kernfs: add exportfs operations"), there was no intention
>>> to export cgroupfs over nfs, only local to uses, but that was never enforced,
>>> so we thought it would be good to add this restriction and backport it to
>>> stable kernels.
>>
>> Can you please explain what the problem with exporting these file
>> systems over NFS is? Yes, it's not going to be very useful. But what
>> is actually problematic about it? Any why is it not problematic with
>> a userland nfs server? We really need to settle that argumet before
>> deciding a flag name or polarity.
>>
>
> I agree that it is not the end of the world and users do have to explicitly
> use fsid= argument to be able to export cgroupfs via nfsd.
>
> The idea for this patch started from the claim that Jeff wrote that cgroups
> is not allowed for nfsd export, but I couldn't find where it is not allowed.
>
> I have no issue personally with leaving cgroupfs exportable via nfsd
> and changing restricting only SB_NOUSER and SB_KERNMOUNT fs.
>
> Jeff, Chuck, what is your opinion w.r.t exportability of cgroupfs via nfsd?
We all seem to be hard-pressed to find a usage scenario where exporting
pseudo-filesystems via NFS is valuable. But maybe someone has done it
and has a good reason for it.
The issue is whether such export should be consistently and actively
prevented.
I'm not aware of any specific security issues with it.
--
Chuck Lever
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-09 16:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-01 13:12 [PATCH 0/4] exportfs: add flag to allow marking export operations as only supporting file handles Christian Brauner
2024-12-01 13:12 ` [PATCH 1/4] exportfs: add flag to indicate local " Christian Brauner
2024-12-01 13:44 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-12-01 16:01 ` kernel test robot
2024-12-01 23:12 ` Dave Chinner
2024-12-02 9:19 ` Christian Brauner
2024-12-01 13:12 ` [PATCH 2/4] kernfs: restrict to " Christian Brauner
2024-12-01 13:12 ` [PATCH 3/4] ovl: restrict to exportable " Christian Brauner
2024-12-01 13:12 ` [PATCH 4/4] pidfs: restrict to local " Christian Brauner
2024-12-01 13:28 ` [PATCH 0/4] exportfs: add flag to allow marking export operations as only supporting " Jeff Layton
2024-12-01 16:22 ` Chuck Lever III
2024-12-03 9:08 ` Christian Brauner
2024-12-03 14:32 ` Jeff Layton
2024-12-01 13:44 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-12-05 0:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-05 10:53 ` Christian Brauner
2024-12-05 11:57 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-12-06 16:03 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-07 8:49 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-12-09 7:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-09 8:58 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-12-09 9:16 ` Greg KH
2024-12-09 10:02 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-12-09 13:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-09 13:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-09 16:30 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-12-09 16:35 ` Chuck Lever [this message]
2024-12-09 17:15 ` Jeff Layton
2024-12-09 17:20 ` Chuck Lever
2024-12-10 10:13 ` Christian Brauner
2024-12-10 10:34 ` Christian Brauner
2024-12-10 11:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-10 12:44 ` Jeff Layton
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