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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Erin Shepherd <erin.shepherd@e43.eu>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, stable <stable@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] exportfs: add flag to allow marking export operations as only supporting file handles
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2024 23:49:43 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z1ahFxFtksuThilS@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxgzWZ_X8S6dnWSwU=o5QKR_azq=5fe2Qw8gavLuTOy7Aw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Dec 07, 2024 at 09:49:02AM +0100, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> > /* file handles can be used by a process on another node */
> > #define EXPORT_OP_ALLOW_REMOTE_NODES    (...)
> 
> This has a sound of security which is incorrect IMO.
> The fact that we block nfsd export of cgroups does not prevent
> any type of userland file server from exporting cgroup file handles.

So what is the purpose of the flag?  Asking for a coherent name and
description was the other bigger ask for me.

> Maybe opt-out of nfsd export is a little less safer than opt-in, but
> 1. opt-out is and will remain the rare exception for export_operations
> 2. at least the flag name EXPORT_OP_LOCAL_FILE_HANDLE
>     is pretty clear IMO

Even after this thread I have absolutely no idea what problem it tries
to solve.  Maybe that's not just the flag names fault, and not of opt-in
vs out, but both certainly don't help.

> Plus, as I wrote in another email, the fact that pidfs is SB_NOUSER,
> so userspace is not allowed to mount it into the namespace and
> userland file servers cannot export the filesystem itself.
> That property itself (SB_NOUSER), is therefore a good enough indication
> to deny nfsd export of this fs.

So check SB_NOUSER in nfsd and be done with it?


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-09  7:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-01 13:12 [PATCH 0/4] exportfs: add flag to allow marking export operations as only supporting file handles Christian Brauner
2024-12-01 13:12 ` [PATCH 1/4] exportfs: add flag to indicate local " Christian Brauner
2024-12-01 13:44   ` Amir Goldstein
2024-12-01 16:01   ` kernel test robot
2024-12-01 23:12   ` Dave Chinner
2024-12-02  9:19     ` Christian Brauner
2024-12-01 13:12 ` [PATCH 2/4] kernfs: restrict to " Christian Brauner
2024-12-01 13:12 ` [PATCH 3/4] ovl: restrict to exportable " Christian Brauner
2024-12-01 13:12 ` [PATCH 4/4] pidfs: restrict to local " Christian Brauner
2024-12-01 13:28 ` [PATCH 0/4] exportfs: add flag to allow marking export operations as only supporting " Jeff Layton
2024-12-01 16:22   ` Chuck Lever III
2024-12-03  9:08     ` Christian Brauner
2024-12-03 14:32       ` Jeff Layton
2024-12-01 13:44 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-12-05  0:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-05 10:53   ` Christian Brauner
2024-12-05 11:57   ` Amir Goldstein
2024-12-06 16:03     ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-12-07  8:49       ` Amir Goldstein
2024-12-09  7:49         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-12-09  8:58           ` Amir Goldstein
2024-12-09  9:16             ` Greg KH
2024-12-09 10:02               ` Amir Goldstein
2024-12-09 13:45               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-09 13:46             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-09 16:30               ` Amir Goldstein
2024-12-09 16:35                 ` Chuck Lever
2024-12-09 17:15                   ` Jeff Layton
2024-12-09 17:20                     ` Chuck Lever
2024-12-10 10:13                       ` Christian Brauner
2024-12-10 10:34                         ` Christian Brauner
2024-12-10 11:10                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-10 12:44                         ` Jeff Layton

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