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From: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix AUDIT_MAC_POLICY_LOAD event formatting
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:13:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1612970.M9BsOE2y15@x2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8fc7f4df-3c1a-3c5b-ceb9-67b140383ee7@tycho.nsa.gov>

On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 2:47:15 PM EST Stephen Smalley wrote:
> >> At present, we only generate AUDIT_MAC_STATUS, AUDIT_MAC_LOAD, and
> >> AUDIT_MAC_CONFIG_CHANGE on success (or at least partial success).  If
> >> you truly need to audit failures, then it seems like you either need to
> >> a) do it through syscall audit filters, which already provide a success=
> >> field
> > 
> > I can't imagine what to audit on. There is an open syscall that has a
> > path. But I suspect that does not fail because policy has not be written.
> > There is a write syscall but triggering on that is pretty generic. This is
> > not ideal.
>
> Can't you write an audit syscall filter or watch on
> /sys/fs/selinux/load?  Ditto for /sys/fs/selinux/enforce,
> /sys/fs/selinux/commit_pending_bools, etc.

Yes, you can. But this is for the open syscall. sel_write_load() is the 
function where the auditing is done but its mapped to the .write member of 
sel_load_ops. Auditing on write is not a good thing.

So, if AUDIT_MAC_POLICY_LOAD must only appear when there is success, then its 
best to create a second event for failure and hard code the 'res' fields for 
both.

-Steve

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From: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Cc: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	linux-audit@redhat.com, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix AUDIT_MAC_POLICY_LOAD event formatting
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:13:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1612970.M9BsOE2y15@x2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8fc7f4df-3c1a-3c5b-ceb9-67b140383ee7@tycho.nsa.gov>

On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 2:47:15 PM EST Stephen Smalley wrote:
> >> At present, we only generate AUDIT_MAC_STATUS, AUDIT_MAC_LOAD, and
> >> AUDIT_MAC_CONFIG_CHANGE on success (or at least partial success).  If
> >> you truly need to audit failures, then it seems like you either need to
> >> a) do it through syscall audit filters, which already provide a success=
> >> field
> > 
> > I can't imagine what to audit on. There is an open syscall that has a
> > path. But I suspect that does not fail because policy has not be written.
> > There is a write syscall but triggering on that is pretty generic. This is
> > not ideal.
>
> Can't you write an audit syscall filter or watch on
> /sys/fs/selinux/load?  Ditto for /sys/fs/selinux/enforce,
> /sys/fs/selinux/commit_pending_bools, etc.

Yes, you can. But this is for the open syscall. sel_write_load() is the 
function where the auditing is done but its mapped to the .write member of 
sel_load_ops. Auditing on write is not a good thing.

So, if AUDIT_MAC_POLICY_LOAD must only appear when there is success, then its 
best to create a second event for failure and hard code the 'res' fields for 
both.

-Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-22 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-21 17:30 [PATCH] Fix AUDIT_MAC_POLICY_LOAD event formatting Steve Grubb
2016-11-21 21:50 ` Paul Moore
2016-11-21 21:50   ` Paul Moore
2016-11-21 22:51   ` Steve Grubb
     [not found]   ` <CAHC9VhSYkymKzvbOW1vkZ_Ae=VGZc8TcMKimyXO0iO7e6M8GzQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-22 13:56     ` Stephen Smalley
2016-11-22 13:56       ` Stephen Smalley
2016-11-22 14:28       ` Steve Grubb
2016-11-22 14:28         ` Steve Grubb
2016-11-22 14:55         ` Stephen Smalley
2016-11-22 14:55           ` Stephen Smalley
2016-11-22 18:53           ` Lenny Bruzenak
2016-11-22 18:53             ` Lenny Bruzenak
2016-11-22 19:39           ` Steve Grubb
2016-11-22 19:39             ` Steve Grubb
2016-11-22 19:47             ` Stephen Smalley
2016-11-22 19:47               ` Stephen Smalley
2016-11-22 20:13               ` Steve Grubb [this message]
2016-11-22 20:13                 ` Steve Grubb

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