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From: Keith Owens <kaos@sgi.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Takao Indoh <indou.takao@soft.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
Subject: Re: [3/4] [PATCH]Diskdump - yet another crash dump function
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:46:11 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1642.1087796771@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 17 Jun 2004 14:13:56 +0200." <20040617121356.GA24338@elte.hu>

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 14:13:56 +0200, 
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>but there's another possible method (suggested by Alan Cox) that
>requires no changes to the timer API hotpaths: 'clear' all timer lists
>upon a crash [once all CPUs have stopped and irqs are disabled] and just
>let the drivers use the normal timer APIs. Drive timer execution via a
>polling method.
>
>this basically approximates your polling based implementation but uses
>the existing kernel timer data structures and timer mechanism so should
>be robust and compatible. It doesnt rely on any previous state (because
>all currently pending timers are discarded) so it's as crash-safe as
>possible.

Don't forget live crash dumping.  The system is running and is behaving
strangely so you want to take a dump for investigation, but you do not
want to kill the system afterwards.  Live crash dumping is very useful
for problem diagnosis.

It is a little more complex than dumping after an oops because you must
not destroy any kernel data, including timer lists.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-06-21  5:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-27  9:33 [PATCH]Diskdump - yet another crash dump function Takao Indoh
2004-05-27 12:36 ` [1/4] " Takao Indoh
2004-05-27 12:37 ` [2/4] " Takao Indoh
2004-05-27 13:48   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-05-28  2:13     ` Takao Indoh
2004-05-27 12:39 ` [3/4] " Takao Indoh
2004-05-27 13:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-05-27 21:04     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-17 11:34       ` Takao Indoh
2004-06-17 12:00         ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-17 12:45           ` Takao Indoh
2004-06-17 12:13         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-17 12:18           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-17 12:32             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-17 14:56               ` Jeff Moyer
2004-06-17 15:45                 ` Nobuhiro Tachino
2004-06-17 13:04           ` Takao Indoh
2004-06-17 13:10             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-17 13:11               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-17 13:15                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-17 14:00                 ` Takao Indoh
2004-06-17 14:45                   ` Nobuhiro Tachino
2004-06-17 14:53                     ` Takao Indoh
2004-06-18 12:02           ` Takao Indoh
2004-06-21 20:40             ` Nobuhiro Tachino
2004-06-22 10:19               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-23 12:11                 ` Takao Indoh
2004-06-23 13:00                   ` Takao Indoh
2004-06-21  5:46           ` Keith Owens [this message]
2004-06-21  6:25             ` Takao Indoh
2004-06-22  4:21             ` Rob Landley
2004-06-22  7:56             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-05-28  9:38     ` Takao Indoh
2004-05-27 12:40 ` [4/4] " Takao Indoh
2004-05-27 13:34 ` [Document][PATCH]Diskdump " Takao Indoh
2004-06-03 13:10 ` [PATCH]Diskdump " Pavel Machek
2004-06-04  0:44   ` Takao Indoh
2004-06-04  9:33     ` Pavel Machek
     [not found] <20pwP-55v-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20suK-7C5-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <20tAB-5c-31@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <20AiB-69m-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-05-27 21:31       ` [3/4] " Andi Kleen
2004-05-28  7:38         ` Ingo Molnar

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