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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 1/7] media: V4L2: add temporary clock helpers
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 08:22:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1682270.VnHBnRB9ZY@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130411231923.7915.17215@quantum>

Hi Mike,

On Thursday 11 April 2013 16:19:23 Mike Turquette wrote:
> Quoting Laurent Pinchart (2013-04-11 15:35:38)
> > On Thursday 11 April 2013 11:52:58 Mike Turquette wrote:

[snip]

> > > I came into this thread late and don't have the actual patches in my
> > > inbox for review.  That said, I don't understand why V4L2 cares about
> > > the clk framework *implementation*?  The clk.h api is the same for
> > > platforms using the common struct clk and those still using the legacy
> > > method of defining their own struct clk.  If drivers are only consumers
> > > of the clk.h api then the implementation underneath should not matter.
> > 
> > The issue on non-CCF systems is that devices usually can't register clocks
> > dynamically. (Most of) those systems provide system clocks only through
> > their clock API, without a way for the camera IP core to hook up the
> > clock(s) it can provide to the camera sensor. On the consumer side we
> > don't care much about the clock framework implementation, but on the
> > provider side we need a framework that allows registering non-system
> > clocks at runtime.
> 
> Yes, you do care about the clock framework implementation if you are a clock
> provider.  I still haven't gone through the archives to find these patches
> but I hope that any dependency on CONFIG_COMMON_CLK is conditionalized to
> have the smallest impact possible. Making v4l2 as a whole depend on
> COMMON_CLK might be a bit overkill compared to just making individual camera
> drivers depend on it.

The basic idea is to push the dependency on CONFIG_COMMON_CLK to individual 
drivers, and provide a V4L2-specific clock framework (that looks like a 
stripped-down version of CCF) for platforms that don't implement CCF yet.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com (Laurent Pinchart)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v8 1/7] media: V4L2: add temporary clock helpers
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:22:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1682270.VnHBnRB9ZY@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130411231923.7915.17215@quantum>

Hi Mike,

On Thursday 11 April 2013 16:19:23 Mike Turquette wrote:
> Quoting Laurent Pinchart (2013-04-11 15:35:38)
> > On Thursday 11 April 2013 11:52:58 Mike Turquette wrote:

[snip]

> > > I came into this thread late and don't have the actual patches in my
> > > inbox for review.  That said, I don't understand why V4L2 cares about
> > > the clk framework *implementation*?  The clk.h api is the same for
> > > platforms using the common struct clk and those still using the legacy
> > > method of defining their own struct clk.  If drivers are only consumers
> > > of the clk.h api then the implementation underneath should not matter.
> > 
> > The issue on non-CCF systems is that devices usually can't register clocks
> > dynamically. (Most of) those systems provide system clocks only through
> > their clock API, without a way for the camera IP core to hook up the
> > clock(s) it can provide to the camera sensor. On the consumer side we
> > don't care much about the clock framework implementation, but on the
> > provider side we need a framework that allows registering non-system
> > clocks at runtime.
> 
> Yes, you do care about the clock framework implementation if you are a clock
> provider.  I still haven't gone through the archives to find these patches
> but I hope that any dependency on CONFIG_COMMON_CLK is conditionalized to
> have the smallest impact possible. Making v4l2 as a whole depend on
> COMMON_CLK might be a bit overkill compared to just making individual camera
> drivers depend on it.

The basic idea is to push the dependency on CONFIG_COMMON_CLK to individual 
drivers, and provide a V4L2-specific clock framework (that looks like a 
stripped-down version of CCF) for platforms that don't implement CCF yet.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Mike Turquette <mturquette@linaro.org>
Cc: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"renwei.wu" <renwei.wu@csr.com>,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
	Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	DL-SHA-WorkGroupLinux <workgroup.linux@csr.com>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	Russell King <rmk+kernel@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Sylwester Nawrocki <sylvester.nawrocki@gmail.com>,
	zilong.wu@csr.com, xiaomeng.hou@csr.com,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 1/7] media: V4L2: add temporary clock helpers
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:22:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1682270.VnHBnRB9ZY@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130411231923.7915.17215@quantum>

Hi Mike,

On Thursday 11 April 2013 16:19:23 Mike Turquette wrote:
> Quoting Laurent Pinchart (2013-04-11 15:35:38)
> > On Thursday 11 April 2013 11:52:58 Mike Turquette wrote:

[snip]

> > > I came into this thread late and don't have the actual patches in my
> > > inbox for review.  That said, I don't understand why V4L2 cares about
> > > the clk framework *implementation*?  The clk.h api is the same for
> > > platforms using the common struct clk and those still using the legacy
> > > method of defining their own struct clk.  If drivers are only consumers
> > > of the clk.h api then the implementation underneath should not matter.
> > 
> > The issue on non-CCF systems is that devices usually can't register clocks
> > dynamically. (Most of) those systems provide system clocks only through
> > their clock API, without a way for the camera IP core to hook up the
> > clock(s) it can provide to the camera sensor. On the consumer side we
> > don't care much about the clock framework implementation, but on the
> > provider side we need a framework that allows registering non-system
> > clocks at runtime.
> 
> Yes, you do care about the clock framework implementation if you are a clock
> provider.  I still haven't gone through the archives to find these patches
> but I hope that any dependency on CONFIG_COMMON_CLK is conditionalized to
> have the smallest impact possible. Making v4l2 as a whole depend on
> COMMON_CLK might be a bit overkill compared to just making individual camera
> drivers depend on it.

The basic idea is to push the dependency on CONFIG_COMMON_CLK to individual 
drivers, and provide a V4L2-specific clock framework (that looks like a 
stripped-down version of CCF) for platforms that don't implement CCF yet.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart


  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-12  8:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-08 15:05 [PATCH v8 0/7] V4L2 clock and async patches and soc-camera example Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-08 15:05 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-08 15:05 ` [PATCH v8 1/7] media: V4L2: add temporary clock helpers Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-08 15:05   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-11  3:40   ` Barry Song
2013-04-11  3:40     ` Barry Song
2013-04-11  7:22     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-11  7:22       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-11  8:22       ` Barry Song
2013-04-11  8:22         ` Barry Song
2013-04-11  8:22         ` Barry Song
2013-04-11  8:36         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-11  8:36           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-11  8:36           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-11  8:59           ` Barry Song
2013-04-11  8:59             ` Barry Song
2013-04-11  8:59             ` Barry Song
2013-04-11 18:52             ` Mike Turquette
2013-04-11 18:52               ` Mike Turquette
2013-04-11 18:52               ` Mike Turquette
2013-04-11 20:14               ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-04-11 20:14                 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-04-11 20:14                 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-04-11 22:35               ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-04-11 22:35                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-04-11 22:35                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-04-11 23:19                 ` Mike Turquette
2013-04-12  8:22                   ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2013-04-12  8:22                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-04-12  8:22                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-04-08 15:05 ` [PATCH v8 2/7] media: V4L2: support asynchronous subdevice registration Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-08 15:05   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-12 12:09   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-04-12 12:09     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-04-12 14:29     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-12 14:29       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-08 15:05 ` [PATCH v8 3/7] media: soc-camera: switch I2C subdevice drivers to use v4l2-clk Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-08 15:05   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-08 15:05 ` [PATCH v8 4/7] soc-camera: add V4L2-async support Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-08 15:05   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-08 15:05 ` [PATCH v8 5/7] sh_mobile_ceu_camera: add asynchronous subdevice probing support Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-08 15:05   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-08 15:05 ` [PATCH v8 6/7] imx074: support asynchronous probing Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-08 15:05   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-08 15:05 ` [PATCH v8 7/7] ARM: shmobile: convert ap4evb to asynchronously register camera subdevices Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-08 15:05   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-09  8:07 ` [PATCH v8 0/7] V4L2 clock and async patches and soc-camera example Simon Horman
2013-04-09  8:07   ` Simon Horman
2013-04-09  8:14   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-09  8:14     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-09  9:01     ` Simon Horman
2013-04-09  9:01       ` Simon Horman
2013-04-11  9:59 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-11  9:59   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-11 19:58   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-04-11 19:58     ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-04-12  6:13     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-12  6:13       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-12 12:48       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-04-12 12:48         ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-04-15 10:32         ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-04-15 10:32           ` Laurent Pinchart

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